Family says son, 11, was spanked too hard at private school

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A family is complaining that their 11-year-old son was paddled excessively as punishment for fighting at his private school, according to Channel 2 Action News.

"I don't know how to explain it. So brutal," Desmond Omigie told Channel 2 about being spanked by a leader at Hope Christian Academy in Jonesboro.

Desmond said he got into a fight on the basketball court at the school and punched another student in the nose.

The school enforces corporal punishment and Robert Taylor, the pastor of the church that runs the school, spanked him, he told Channel 2.

"Before he spanked me, he said, ‘I'm going to beat you until I get tired," Desmond told Channel 2.

The pastor told Channel 2 that he followed procedures when spanking the fifth grader, and that those are procedures that parents permit...
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I would really like to know more about the "injuries" before commenting too much on this one.
 
If the paddling was at the end of the day and there were still red marks ... on some people that is very easy to do without going overboard. And if the kid was wearing thin shorts vs. thick blue jeans ...
 
unionmom said:
If the paddling was at the end of the day and there were still red marks ... on some people that is very easy to do without going overboard. And if the kid was wearing thin shorts vs. thick blue jeans ...
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I was saying "injuries" like the mom said. A red butt is not what I would consider an injury. :))
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If the paddling was at the end of the day and there were still red marks ... on some people that is very easy to do without going overboard. And if the kid was wearing thin shorts vs. thick blue jeans ...
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I was saying "injuries" like the mom said. A red butt is not what I would consider an injury. :))
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Some people would when the reality of what they approved comes home. ("Yes, I did say they could spank little johnny but I thought they'd do it with a wet noodle.") That's why I put it in quotes and want to find out more before saying too much about the situation.
 
The first thing I'll say is that it is painfully obvious that the kid has been coached in what to say which sadly buts the whole situation into question. Anytime you do that you make the whole thing look bad. That pastor could have gone too far but as soon as you corrupt a witness you corrupt your case.

Having said that ...

They say that the kid was hit 5-6 times with a belt while his pants were pulled up. Still no specifics on what the injuries were. The mother is going on and on about how she feels that she failed to protect her child (even though she obviously agreed to their corporal punishment policy when she enrolled him) but I can't help but wonder how the mother of the other child feels. You know, the mother of the kid this one punched in the nose while at school. ::)

Now I am still not saying that there is no way that the pastor couldn't have gone too far but:
- he claims that he followed school policy
- the mother had to agree to school policy when she enrolled her son
- the boy got into a physical fight with another child and punched that other child in the nose

Anyone else see multiple opportunities to have avoided this situation or is it just me?
 
unionmom said:
The first thing I'll say is that it is painfully obvious that the kid has been coached in what to say which sadly buts the whole situation into question. Anytime you do that you make the whole thing look bad. That pastor could have gone too far but as soon as you corrupt a witness you corrupt your case.

Having said that ...

They say that the kid was hit 5-6 times with a belt while his pants were pulled up. Still no specifics on what the injuries were. The mother is going on and on about how she feels that she failed to protect her child (even though she obviously agreed to their corporal punishment policy when she enrolled him) but I can't help but wonder how the mother of the other child feels. You know, the mother of the kid this one punched in the nose while at school. ::)

Now I am still not saying that there is no way that the pastor couldn't have gone too far but:
- he claims that he followed school policy
- the mother had to agree to school policy when she enrolled her son
- the boy got into a physical fight with another child and punched that other child in the nose

Anyone else see multiple opportunities to have avoided this situation or is it just me?
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Was there not a witness? I remember in school, first they used a paddle, not a belt, second they always called someone into the room, and this is when parents all agreed to spankings and the whole world was not sue happy! That man must be crazy in this day and age not to have had someone else with him.
Sure this totally could have been avoided, but most incidents like this could. (But we have always had kids fighting and I am sure that we always will.) I still want to know about these "injuries."
 
I'm with you ... still wanting to know more about the injuries.

If he went overboard, the kid is a (*bleep*) but he does not deserve to be abused. There is a difference between punishment and abuse and there just is no acceptable time/place/reason to cross that line.





~And in my defense, I say what I do about the kid being a (*bleep*) based on how he comes across ... I don't know him personally. It's all about perception.
 
I think this parent was looking for a lawsuit and when her son came home saying he was spanked, she thinks "JACKPOT!!!"
 
I hate to be so skeptical because I know there are people that do abuse kids but the kid came across as being so coached ... it was almost painful to watch, it was so obvious.
 
My 2 cents - we looked at several private schools that use corporal punishment - the things they were all consistent on was that (1) that corporal punishment meant spanking with something other than a hand (most said they use a paddle); (2) PARENTS consent to that form of punishment when they enroll their child; (3) you have to do something pretty serious to get a paddling; and (4) parents are notified by the school of the spanking. Private schools generally don't hide this fact and openly discuss it with parents so there is no misunderstanding.

Now, if it were my princess, I would probably be upset if she came home with red marks on her behind (even if she did do something that serious). But, I would call the school and talk to them about it and might (?) contact the police only if I felt like the injuries were serious (bruises, etc). Calling the media, however, ruins this family's credibility, but that's just my opinion.
 
LisaC said:
My 2 cents - we looked at several private schools that use corporal punishment - the things they were all consistent on was that (1) that corporal punishment meant spanking with something other than a hand (most said they use a paddle); (2) PARENTS consent to that form of punishment when they enroll their child; (3) you have to do something pretty serious to get a paddling; and (4) parents are notified by the school of the spanking. Private schools generally don't hide this fact and openly discuss it with parents so there is no misunderstanding.

Now, if it were my princess, I would probably be upset if she came home with red marks on her behind (even if she did do something that serious). But, I would call the school and talk to them about it and might (?) contact the police only if I felt like the injuries were serious (bruises, etc). Calling the media, however, ruins this family's credibility, but that's just my opinion.
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That's my thought too. Doesn't sound like they have even let the investigation get started. Oh, and what about the kid that was punched? I wonder what his family is thinking.
 
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