Vaccine Problems...

[lotstodo]

...over 50% of the recorded deaths following vaccination were infants and toddlers under the age of 3, because this is the next targeted demographic to receive the experimental COVID shots: young children.

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This is the part I am opposed to... children do not have a high risk when they get covid, many would not even know they were sick if it were not for the whole family getting a covid test, and the young children also testing positive.

It makes me sick the government is pushing this still "experimental" covid vaccine on children now. Our radio and TV have commercials encouraging vaccination of kids now... very wrong of the state to do this.

AND we are now populated with people who can't evaluate risk/reward cost/benefit....

and...infants and toddlers are the most likely to die without an obvious identifiable cause. "Must be the vaccine".

But I do agree that this is probably not a necessity for children under the age of twelve, perhaps 16, unless they are in frequent close contact with someone who is at risk and cannot take the shot (a very short list). There is no evidence that this virus poses a threat to children greater than the common flu, perhaps even less of a threat.

Personally, I would not rush out to get my child a Covid shot. The risk profile could change with mutations, but right now it just isn't that big a risk. Indeed, if we adults would get vaccinated at a higher rate, it would be even less of a risk for them.

 

[rolltidega]

I was always on the fence about getting the vaccine but I decided to get it after knowing what GD went through. I have had pneumonia before so I know what he went through to an extent, but COVID pneumonia is a different animal. I dont want to take any chances so I have had round one and I am waiting for my round 2 appointment. It is and always should be your choice to get this vaccine but once it hits close to home (family and church family for me), it changes your perspective a bit.

 

[Far West]

I was always on the fence about getting the vaccine but I decided to get it after knowing what GD went through. I have had pneumonia before so I know what he went through to an extent, but COVID pneumonia is a different animal. I dont want to take any chances so I have had round one and I am waiting for my round 2 appointment. It is and always should be your choice to get this vaccine but once it hits close to home (family and church family for me), it changes your perspective a bit.

I think if we were all under 40, we would not bother... this does not have lung and mucus inflammation problems in the younger, but the statistics change when you add in aging.

I think it was "designed" this way, remember in the beginning it was dubbed the boomer remover? I think it was designed in the Wuhan lab.

I would not advise those under 40 who are healthy and with no other underlying conditions to get the vaccine as the risks of surviving the virus are near 100% with no long term problems...

There may be risks we truly won't truly know, about an "unproven" "unapproved" vaccine, for several years to a decade.

 

[Boss 302]

I think if we were all under 40, we would not bother... this does not have lung and mucus inflammation problems in the younger, but the statistics change when you add in aging.

I think it was "designed" this way, remember in the beginning it was dubbed the boomer remover? I think it was designed in the Wuhan lab.

I would not advise those under 40 who are healthy and with no other underlying conditions to get the vaccine as the risks of surviving the virus are are near 100% with no long term problems...

There may be risks we truly won't truly know, about an "unproven" "unapproved" vaccine, for several years to a decade.

I said a long time ago this was made by the Chinese for two reasons. The first to significantly reduce the senior citizen population in their country because the costs associated with aging. The second; it's a no brainer they want their currency to be the world's reserve currency. A virus like this causing a pandemic played havoc on the economy of every industrialized nation.

Even though the pandemic started there and tens of thousands were quickly getting it; the Chinese government allowed its people to travel across the world; most likely to spread it. Also take into consideration most of the world's medical supplies are made in China and how difficult it was for countries to get any.

China is not to be trusted. Take it from a former military intelligence analyst.

 

[Guard Dad]

I said a long time ago this was made by the Chinese for two reasons. The first to significantly reduce the senior citizen population in their country because the costs associated with aging. The second; it's a no brainer they want their currency to be the world's reserve currency. A virus like this causing a pandemic played havoc on the economy of every industrialized nation.

Even though the pandemic started there and tens of thousands were quickly getting it; the Chinese government allowed its people to travel across the world; most likely to spread it. Also take into consideration most of the world's medical supplies are made in China and how difficult it was for countries to get any.

China is not to be trusted. Take it from a former military intelligence analyst.

People need to remember that China has been trying to reduce the elderly population for a long time. Once a person is no longer a productive worker, the CCP has no use for them.

 

[The Sound Guy]

People need to remember that China has been trying to reduce the elderly population for a long time. Once a person is no longer a productive worker, the CCP has no use for them.

Not to mention they had a time bomb on their hands due to 40 years of the One Child policy. They had a VERY top heavy society. You had one couple trying to single handedly support 4 parents and 8 grandparents. Not gonna work.

 

[Guard Dad]

Back on the vaccine...some studies I've seen and some actual cases I'm aware of that indicate the antibodies live much longer than the CDC is claiming have me balking somewhat at the vaccine again.

We need to start demanding answers, and truthful ones. Politics is keeping the truth from coming out.

 

[The Sound Guy]

Back on the vaccine...some studies I've seen and some actual cases I'm aware of that indicate the antibodies live much longer than the CDC is claiming have me balking somewhat at the vaccine again.

We need to start demanding answers, and truthful ones. Politics is keeping the truth from coming out.

Well, to give them some benefit of the doubt, they only had patients who had Covid 90 days before when they said that the antibodies lasted "at least 90 days" last April/May. The Chinese may have had some that had it longer, but they were not saying. Can't determine how long it lasts until they find a majority of people have lost the antibodies after having it "x" number of months before.

However, they should have a fairly large pool of people who had it last Feb/March/April and *didn't* take any Vaccine to test to see how immunity is doing a year later. However, as the vaccines are distributed, that pool may be getting smaller and smaller.

 

[Guard Dad]

Well, to give them some benefit of the doubt, they only had patients who had Covid 90 days before when they said that the antibodies lasted "at least 90 days" last April/May. The Chinese may have had some that had it longer, but they were not saying. Can't determine how long it lasts until they find a majority of people have lost the antibodies after having it "x" number of months before.

However, they should have a fairly large pool of people who had it last Feb/March/April and *didn't* take any Vaccine to test to see how immunity is doing a year later. However, as the vaccines are distributed, that pool may be getting smaller and smaller.

COVID has "officially" been here over a year now. There are independent tests that indicate the antibodies last much longer. My daughter's friend was tested after exactly one year and she still has antibodies.

How long do they last? No one knows, but the CDC has at least one year of sampling available, and they should e able to give us the results of that long.

 

[The Sound Guy]

COVID has "officially" been here over a year now. There are independent tests that indicate the antibodies last much longer. My daughter's friend was tested after exactly one year and she still has antibodies.

How long do they last? No one knows, but the CDC has at least one year of sampling available, and they should e able to give us the results of that long.

Agreed. if they are not doing that study, they should be pushed into doing it. That's critical information for planning.

I however wonder if the megatons of money the vaccine makers are getting from the govt are not a factor in the govt not pushing to learn that a booster may not be needed ....

 

[Far West]

Agreed. if they are not doing that study, they should be pushed into doing it. That's critical information for planning.

I however wonder if the megatons of money the vaccine makers are getting from the govt are not a factor in the govt not pushing to learn that a booster may not be needed ....

Plus if those who had Covid don't need to be vaccinated, the manufacturers would have fewer to vaccinate and would get less guberment $$$$

 

[J-man]

I think the world is finally waking up to the biggest hoax of our lifetime, not necessarily the virus itself but the mandates and the push for everyone to get the jab. JMO.

 

[The Sound Guy]

Plus if those who had Covid don't need to be vaccinated, the manufacturers would have fewer to vaccinate and would get less guberment $$$$

Yeah, I think the fact that the shots are "free" to the public is doing a good job of hiding just how much those shots have cost.

 

[Far West]

I think the world is finally waking up to the biggest hoax of our lifetime, not necessarily the virus itself but the mandates and the push for everyone to get the jab. JMO.

They say of those who want the vaccine shot, but have not gotten it, only 4 % more remain.

What will they do when they told us the only way to herd immunity was 80 % to 85%.... and we sit at 50% and no one is getting sick anymore...?

The democrats/government killed our economy for a virus that is lethal to those over the age of 60 and with pre existing conditions... but almost 100% survivable to those under 60. Instead of protecting those vulnerable UNTIL we had a vaccine for them, we locked up everyone and imposed closures that harmed the small business in favor of big box everything.... and I truly believe hurt our children.

87% of the deaths were persons over 60, add in the 50 to 59 years of age range, the deaths over age 50 represent 95.9% of the deaths in San Diego

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19%20Deaths%20by%20Demographics.pdf

San Diego now has a slide that shows of the 3765 deaths in San Diego, 3604, or 96% of those who died had underlying conditions. ( Page 2) Median age 77 Years old. Page 9 shows a chart of common underlying conditions of deaths.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19%20Deaths%20by%20Demographics.pdf

Truth be told, If they released how many were in nursing facilities, it would be a large percentage based on early confirmations of where the groups of deaths were happening.

I believed from the onset that we should have protect the above 60, and those with underlying conditions, and the rest of us should have been allowed to carry on doing the country's business... but no, we locked our children in the house, took away their right to be children, closed random businesses in favor of big box stores because they could control them easier and pretended this made us all safe.

People should be outraged... I know I am.

 

[Far West]

Yeah, I think the fact that the shots are "free" to the public is doing a good job of hiding just how much those shots have cost.

I will tell you something else. We are vaccinating people from other countries in Kalifornia. FOR FREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! There is no attempt to see if you are a citizen!

I know personally four family groups who came here from Mexico City, Acapulco, Central Mexico (not sure the city,) and Costa Rica to get the vaccine, because Mexico and Costa Rica do not have availability of the vaccine.

These people want to travel and get on with life, so they came to San Diego or Los Angeles to get vaccinated. They paid NOTHING... they said it was easy, they showed their passports as identification of who they were, nothing to show they were US citizens or that they lived or worked in Kalifornia.... no questions asked!!!!!!

These are people wealthy enough to pay for a vaccine... but instead are letting America pay for their vaccine. Two of the families stayed in the US in hotels traveling on vacation for a month so they could get the 2 shots, the other two families just got the Johnson and Johnson once and done, they were only here vacationing for a little over a week.

Either they hope we don't notice, or our stupid leaders can't figure out why certain areas that are heavily Spanish speaking are showing over 99% vaccinated.... so they place this: *****The percentage and rate of the population vaccinated with at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine may approach, or exceed, 99% or 999 per 1,000 San Diego residents aged 12 years and older. The most recent age, gender, region, and race/ethnicity population are 2019 estimates, which may under estimate the current population. When these demographics are analyzed, the population estimates may not reflect social and environmental changes of a community, possibly leading to an under- or overestimate of a population.

NO... you have vaccinated people who are not part of that community because they are not US Citizens, and don't work or LIVE in the USA either!

 

[Boss 302]

I will tell you something else. We are vaccinating people from other countries in Kalifornia. FOR FREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! There is no attempt to see if you are a citizen!

I know personally four family groups who came here from Mexico City, Acapulco, Central Mexico (not sure the city,) and Costa Rica to get the vaccine, because Mexico and Costa Rica do not have availability of the vaccine.

These people want to travel and get on with life, so they came to San Diego or Los Angeles to get vaccinated. They paid NOTHING... they said it was easy, they showed their passports as identification of who they were, nothing to show they were US citizens or that they lived or worked in Kalifornia.... no questions asked!!!!!!

This skews the numbers for what percent of our population has been vaccinated. With all these people coming here to get their shots for free, the percentage of vaccinated US residents will actually be lower than the number calculated.

 

[Far West]

This skews the numbers for what percent of our population has been vaccinated. With all these people coming here to get their shots for free, the percentage of vaccinated US residents will actually be lower than the number calculated.

And I'm good with that if I ever get to take this effen mask off at work, and they stop pushing to vaccinate children for a virus that has little to no medical consequence to them.

I say that because I truly feel the population that needs the vaccine are the ones who have already gotten it.

We want kids to be kids, and if they happen to have Covid, and hug Grandma they won't kill her because Grandma has the vaccine now.

Also... Our numbers have been skewed from people sick with covid coming in from Mexico for medical care anyway... that is a problem with a porous border of underground people abusing the infrastructure of a country they are not a citizen.

Another reason this "social equity" element of progressives push to redistribute the "wealth", that punishes the whole until they have "first taken care of the "impoverished" areas." The area is perpetually impoverished because like leaving food out for squirrels, the freebies attract more impoverished people looking for easy hand outs... it is a tragic cycle....

 

[J-man]

I’ll just leave this right here:



Worth the listen, especially from about 1:27 mark to the end.

 

[The Sound Guy]

The area is perpetually impoverished because like leaving food out for squirrels, the freebies attract more impoverished people looking for easy hand outs... it is a tragic cycle....

Bingo. Yes Yes Yes.

 

[Stonewall]

OK I am not on F**kbook, Twitter or any of the social media BS that is out there. I have not watched the news (except weather) for over a year. I am probably as/more conservative in a lot of ways anyone on this site. Having stated this I am not a dumbass. I talk like a dumbass, write like a dumbass, most of the time act like a dumbass but none the less I am not a dumbass. I have not taken the COVID shot yet. I am not sure when I will take the shot although eventually I will. Any one who denies that the virus exist is a dumbass. I think GD ( who I really like and respect) can verify this. I am very close to 60 y.o. and I have had the polio vaccine, small pox, chicken pox, measles, flu and vaccines I got as a child that I really have no idea what they were. If you chose to not get the vaccine based on religious, moral, family history, allergic reactions, any proven medical conditions that is your choice. If you choose not to get it because of some conspiracy social media BS you are a dumbass. Right now by my standards I am a dumbass. Not because I believe any conspiracies but because I just have not taken the time to get the vaccine. I realize that I am currently a dumbass and will rectify that this summer. Next post I will tell you how I really feel.