2nd wave of foreclosures to hit

I knew this was coming. The banks backed off the foreclosures for a while because of the bad practices of not using proper procedures.

They've got their ducks in a row now, it's going to be bad.
 
I have a friend and they have lived in their house for 21 months as of this month without any action being taken .... She is having a ball spending money though, just not on her house payment

The system is broken and is set up to fail the people trying to do the right thing and not helping those who actually wanna do the right thing
 
sadie612 said:
I have a friend and they have lived in their house for 21 months as of this month without any action being taken .... She is having a ball spending money though, just not on her house payment

The system is broken and is set up to fail the people trying to do the right thing and not helping those who actually wanna do the right thing

Dang. I would have a hard time with the friend thing, knowing what she was doing. I know, I know, I should not judge, but when what she is doing is impacting all of us, it is hard.
 
sadie612 said:
I have a friend and they have lived in their house for 21 months as of this month without any action being taken .... She is having a ball spending money though, just not on her house payment

The system is broken and is set up to fail the people trying to do the right thing and not helping those who actually wanna do the right thing

See, I just don't get this. How the heck is that even possible. Who is her lender? There are banks drop kicking people out of their homes at 90 days.
 
I say Friend but more like an a acquaintance....

BOA is the lender ... BOA is stupid

so BOA screwed us up royally... so I am not as mad lol
 
I've been expecting this. There's a commercial real estate foreclosure wave coming too.

And yes, the system is broken. Wanna guess who broke it? (Hint - It wasn't evil corporate America).
 
Guard Dad said:
I've been expecting this. There's a commercial real estate foreclosure wave coming too.

And yes, the system is broken. Wanna guess who broke it? (Hint - It wasn't evil corporate America).

I KNOW THE ANSWER ( jumping up and down waving my hand)

It was the GOOOOOBERMENT and the obama administration
 
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
I've been expecting this. There's a commercial real estate foreclosure wave coming too.

And yes, the system is broken. Wanna guess who broke it? (Hint - It wasn't evil corporate America).

I KNOW THE ANSWER ( jumping up and down waving my hand)

It was the GOOOOOBERMENT and the obama administration

Yes the government. But to be fair, it didn't start with the Obama administration. It started many years ago.
 
sadie612 said:
I have a friend and they have lived in their house for 21 months as of this month without any action being taken .... She is having a ball spending money though, just not on her house payment

The system is broken and is set up to fail the people trying to do the right thing and not helping those who actually wanna do the right thing

I to have a friend who is in the same boat. Her situation is a little different though. Her hubby of 13 years, in the military cheated on her (A LOT) and they divorced. She hasn't worked their entire marriage and has always been a stay at home mom. She is now stuck at home with 3 kids, a small part time job and child support to try and make ends meet. She can't afford their house now alone and has been trying to find elsewhere to live that she can afford with her kids. Her ex is now in Korea with his new much younger wife. She has been living in the house for almost a year and half and they haven't kicked her out yet. She was told that as long as her ex is over seas they won't make any moves on the property. She even tried to get them to lower the payment to something she could afford but they wouldn't do anything with it. So she is living there for free basically. She is so afraid they are going to kick her out at any moment so she is still searching for a house or an apartment she can afford to rent. Her ex said that when he comes back from overseas she can move out and he'll move in and live there with his new wife (he is such a scumbag)
 
This just makes me sick to my stomach.

And, rumor has it, I have a neighbor who has been in their home for 3 years without payments (and I heard that several months ago, so the situation has either gotten better or worse).
 
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
I've been expecting this. There's a commercial real estate foreclosure wave coming too.

And yes, the system is broken. Wanna guess who broke it? (Hint - It wasn't evil corporate America).

I KNOW THE ANSWER ( jumping up and down waving my hand)

It was the GOOOOOBERMENT and the obama administration

Yes the government. But to be fair, it didn't start with the Obama administration. It started many years ago.

In the Carter years, if I'm not mistaken. I swear, liberalism is at the root of every ill we have. :BH
 
I believe the worst of it really began during Clinton when it was decided that it was just wrong that certain people weren't being given a chance at home ownership. No matter that there was good financial reasoning, it just wasn't fair.

You know, I realize it can be hard for people to come up with the down payment but things worth having should be worth working for. There just is no justification for 100% financing ever. Period, end of story. (I don't care that there technically are exceptions to that, it is a much better rule to just say no.)
 
I don't even want to hear about people that do that. I had no idea how difficult it is to get a home loan. Approval was easy, it's just been all the hoops we've had to jump through since. It makes me angry. We have done everything right, even to the down payment. Yet, because of people walking away from their homes (I know a lot of folks didn't and truly struggled) people that play by the rules are punished. My next door neighbor did it, the guy two houses down did it, and the guy across the street did it. Didn't struggle, just decided to not make the payment and move.

:eek:ffsoapbox:
 
Please, don't get me wrong. I know there are many people that also played by the rules, and met hard times and lost everything. My heart breaks for them. It really does. But the folks on my road are the ones that helped make this worse.

And UM us right, that is why we are in this mess.
 
MrsB said:
Please, don't get me wrong. I know there are many people that also played by the rules, and met hard times and lost everything. My heart breaks for them. It really does. But the folks on my road are the ones that helped make this worse.

And UM us right, that is why we are in this mess.

We knew who you were talking about, sweets. Chaps my arse, it does. I cannot FATHOM just walking away unless I had NO OTHER CHOICE. Over on the other site, Laurie P. told about the house next door to her listing for $28,000. :sigh:
 
Yeah. My neighbor's house has been empty for 3-4 years. The last time the bank put it up it was 52k. Awesome.
 
I know people who had no choice but to walk away due to joblessness and pay cuts... I don't judge them. I had a good friend(a great friend) call her lender and explain what is going on and they refused to help. SO after a few months of them struggling and logging and recording her calls with the lender( and emails) she told them she had no choice but to walk away. Never missed a payment until the month they moved out.

Why is the system set up to help the deadbeats and not the people who keep in contact with them and want to work something out
 
STOP READING THIS GARBAGE.

Most of the foreclosures you're going to see hit the market won't be trashed beyond repair. You'll see investors snap them up (as they are doing now) to flip and rent. The Rental market is going to be even hotter than it is now. And frankly, we need some inventory. And as long as seller's either can't or won't price (I'm so sick of hearing "I'm not going to give it away.") there won't be anything for me to show anyone. The inventory is so low now, I'm at a loss for what to show anyone. There's less than three months of inventory in Paulding and that's mostly crap that would need extensive repairs to be habitable.

What I hope we learn from this, as a culture, is that we must stop being arrogant. We are the most arrogant bunch of sob's. We don't own the world, some invisible deity in the sky didn't anoint us the chosen ones and sometimes America loses because we are simply too big for britches. We let this happen. We continue to let it happen. I'd say if you don't like the way the house next door to you looks and it's bringing down your value, mobilize your neighbors and get your asses to work. Turn off the big screen TV, that race or sporting event isn't nearly as important as you think it is. Focus on your family, your friends, your own neighborhoods. And, GASP, those that are difference than you. Teach your kids the value of volunteering. Take away their video games and buy them a bike. Take a trip to the library. Take a walk.

I'll share something very personal with you. I can't believe I'm even going to do this. I'm currently four months behind on my mortgage and I was in danger of having my power turned off this week. If it had not been for the generosity of a friend who made me the small loan to cover it, I would have been in the dark Saturday morning. I'm not behind because I'm lazy. I'm not behind because I'm out partying and not paying my bills. I'm behind because two of the three closings I had scheduled for December blew up through no fault of my own. Then another blew up last month. HUD and a foreclosing bank screwed both me and my clients because of their ineptitude. And once you're behind it's hard to catch up. Banks and the government caused this and we can trace it all the way back to the New Deal and the creation of HUD and FHA. Because of this bullshi.t I went three months without a pay check. I was fortunate enough that Jimmy took on a few freelance design jobs and I did get a couple of small rental fees in. We're talking a couple of hundred dollars over a near 12 week period. Nothing fancy. I did some odd jobs like painting an office for my broker. That coupled with one closing in March allowed me to make a mortgage payment and thankfully save my dogs life when she needed emergency surgery last month (when it rains, it pours). HOWEVER, April is going to be a killer month for me. I've got $9k in net commission coming my way. Month's of work is finally going to pay off. I'll catch everything up, replenish my savings and can finally grocery shop without feeling guilty about spending a little more to eat healthy. I haven't had television in two months. I have cut back on everything possible. And I already live well below what most people would think of as poverty level. I chose wisely. I purchased a home eight years ago that I could afford. When I had a vehicle it was used when I bought it. I've never owned a new vehicle in my life. I'll be 36 years old in July. This is one of the reasons I'm also planning a move to Nashville at the end of this year. Their market is doing much better than ours (even though ours is improving drastically) as they never had the inflated values that we saw. I'm choosing to move to a better location that will allow me to be more financially successful. I'm making a choice to not wallow in it. I'm doing what I need to in order to make it. I'm leaving my friends, family and six and a half years of business behind to start fresh. That's what America is about to me. Being humble enough to know when it's time to move on. And having the personal responsibility to actually do it. Not waiting for someone to do it for me.

Through all of this you've probably noticed I remain optimistic. I focus on the positive. I choose to tell you each week what's good about the state of the housing market. I choose to wake up everyday and go to work, thankful that I have a talent and the education that I can use to earn money. Thankful that we can still afford for Jimmy to go to school full time. He was laid off from his job at that other forum last April. No warning, no notice. Just, "We don't need you anymore. Three years was all we needed." We didn't cry and whine. We stopped eating out. We cut back our expenses. When my vehicle died (something that is imperative to my business) I didn't replace it. And I still haven't. I've been doing a job that requires a car for nearly a year and I don't personally own one. We make do with Jimmy's car and my business partner has been a huge help because thankfully he has reliable transportation. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Would any of you that know me or even just read my posts have guessed I was anything other than successful? I sure hope not, because to me I am successful. I get my ass up every day and I go to work. I focus on what's good about life and not what's bringing me down. I live meagerly. My expenses are just under $2000/month. That's mortgage, insurance, food, etc. I don't have any credit cards. I do owe the IRS some bucks but they will get paid this month too, if all goes as planned. So, I'll say it again, STOP FOCUSING ON THE NEGATIVE. Get up, take a deep breath, and get your ass to work doing something productive. You'll feel a whole lot better. And the world won't be nearly as frightening. And besides, death is coming for all of us. Some of you are looking forward to a splendid after life. I'm just getting as much good out of life before it claims me. Auntie Mame said it best, "Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!"

And above all else, have a great day.
 
C. Mark said:
STOP READING THIS GARBAGE.

Most of the foreclosures you're going to see hit the market won't be trashed beyond repair. You'll see investors snap them up (as they are doing now) to flip and rent. The Rental market is going to be even hotter than it is now. And frankly, we need some inventory. And as long as seller's either can't or won't price (I'm so sick of hearing "I'm not going to give it away.") there won't be anything for me to show anyone. The inventory is so low now, I'm at a loss for what to show anyone. There's less than three months of inventory in Paulding and that's mostly crap that would need extensive repairs to be habitable.

What I hope we learn from this, as a culture, is that we must stop being arrogant. We are the most arrogant bunch of sob's. We don't own the world, some invisible deity in the sky didn't anoint us the chosen ones and sometimes America loses because we are simply too big for britches. We let this happen. We continue to let it happen. I'd say if you don't like the way the house next door to you looks and it's bringing down your value, mobilize your neighbors and get your asses to work. Turn off the big screen TV, that race or sporting event isn't nearly as important as you think it is. Focus on your family, your friends, your own neighborhoods. And, GASP, those that are difference than you. Teach your kids the value of volunteering. Take away their video games and buy them a bike. Take a trip to the library. Take a walk.

I'll share something very personal with you. I can't believe I'm even going to do this. I'm currently four months behind on my mortgage and I was in danger of having my power turned off this week. If it had not been for the generosity of a friend who made me the small loan to cover it, I would have been in the dark Saturday morning. I'm not behind because I'm lazy. I'm not behind because I'm out partying and not paying my bills. I'm behind because two of the three closings I had scheduled for December blew up through no fault of my own. Then another blew up last month. HUD and a foreclosing bank screwed both me and my clients because of their ineptitude. And once you're behind it's hard to catch up. Banks and the government caused this and we can trace it all the way back to the New Deal and the creation of HUD and FHA. Because of this bullshi.t I went three months without a pay check. I was fortunate enough that Jimmy took on a few freelance design jobs and I did get a couple of small rental fees in. We're talking a couple of hundred dollars over a near 12 week period. Nothing fancy. I did some odd jobs like painting an office for my broker. That coupled with one closing in March allowed me to make a mortgage payment and thankfully save my dogs life when she needed emergency surgery last month (when it rains, it pours). HOWEVER, April is going to be a killer month for me. I've got $9k in net commission coming my way. Month's of work is finally going to pay off. I'll catch everything up, replenish my savings and can finally grocery shop without feeling guilty about spending a little more to eat healthy. I haven't had television in two months. I have cut back on everything possible. And I already live well below what most people would think of as poverty level. I chose wisely. I purchased a home eight years ago that I could afford. When I had a vehicle it was used when I bought it. I've never owned a new vehicle in my life. I'll be 36 years old in July. This is one of the reasons I'm also planning a move to Nashville at the end of this year. Their market is doing much better than ours (even though ours is improving drastically) as they never had the inflated values that we saw. I'm choosing to move to a better location that will allow me to be more financially successful. I'm making a choice to not wallow in it. I'm doing what I need to in order to make it. I'm leaving my friends, family and six and a half years of business behind to start fresh. That's what America is about to me. Being humble enough to know when it's time to move on. And having the personal responsibility to actually do it. Not waiting for someone to do it for me.

Through all of this you've probably noticed I remain optimistic. I focus on the positive. I choose to tell you each week what's good about the state of the housing market. I choose to wake up everyday and go to work, thankful that I have a talent and the education that I can use to earn money. Thankful that we can still afford for Jimmy to go to school full time. He was laid off from his job at that other forum last April. No warning, no notice. Just, "We don't need you anymore. Three years was all we needed." We didn't cry and whine. We stopped eating out. We cut back our expenses. When my vehicle died (something that is imperative to my business) I didn't replace it. And I still haven't. I've been doing a job that requires a car for nearly a year and I don't personally own one. We make do with Jimmy's car and my business partner has been a huge help because thankfully he has reliable transportation. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Would any of you that know me or even just read my posts have guessed I was anything other than successful? I sure hope not, because to me I am successful. I get my ass up every day and I go to work. I focus on what's good about life and not what's bringing me down. I live meagerly. My expenses are just under $2000/month. That's mortgage, insurance, food, etc. I don't have any credit cards. I do owe the IRS some bucks but they will get paid this month too, if all goes as planned. So, I'll say it again, STOP FOCUSING ON THE NEGATIVE. Get up, take a deep breath, and get your ass to work doing something productive. You'll feel a whole lot better. And the world won't be nearly as frightening. And besides, death is coming for all of us. Some of you are looking forward to a splendid after life. I'm just getting as much good out of life before it claims me. Auntie Mame said it best, "Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!"

And above all else, have a great day.
:love

Mark, thank you for this post. I am frustrated and stressed and angry at this process, and in reality I should be happy I am in this position. Also, please know that I do NOT mean people like you in my previous post. It is the people like my neighbor who just left.

Also, my husband and I have been caring for the forclosure next door until late last summer, when the bank finally started sending someone over to cut the grass, etc. LOL
 
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