Covid is right here, and it's getting bad fast.

There seems to be more and more claims of heart damage from the mRNA vaccines coming forward.

Time will tell.
 
Guard Dad said:
There seems to be more and more claims of heart damage from the mRNA vaccines coming forward.

Time will tell.
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That is why other countries are not advising those under 50 to take the vaccine. The risk out weighs the reward.

Why take a healthy 2 year old, 20 year old, or even 35 year old, and subject them to the vaccine injuries and death that are now showing up from an emergency use vaccine with no long term studies...

Especially when the virus is no longer a threat to those healthy and under 50. To be honest I don't know that the variant out there even poses a threat to the elderly. We are seeing the flu has been much more sever, and children are even dying of the flu, unlike covid.
 
Part of the problem with really figuring out if the vaccines are actually causing heart issues is that every time someone under 60 dies due to what appears could be a heart issue or if the cause of death isn't provided, many folks are attributing those deaths to the vaccine without any proof. It's not like people under 60, including many athletes, didn't die of cardiac arrest before COVID. Also, COVID itself is known to cause heart issues.

Hopefully we'll eventually get to the truth and know if the vaccines are causing issues or not.
 
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Part of the problem with really figuring out if the vaccines are actually causing heart issues is that every time someone under 60 dies due to what appears could be a heart issue or if the cause of death isn't provided, many folks are attributing those deaths to the vaccine without any proof. It's not like people under 60, including many athletes, didn't die of cardiac arrest before COVID. Also, COVID itself is known to cause heart issues.

Hopefully we'll eventually get to the truth and know if the vaccines are causing issues or not.
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I agree, we had 2 men in our home team and one neighbor who died very young in a 14 month time frame a decade ago.

None had health problems that could be predicted that they would die. One was a helicopter pilot for the Army and had just had his physical. He played sports all the time and coached his 4 kids soccer and baseball... very fit. He was 50. Another was 60 and out on the Silver Comet trail on his birthday using his new bike shoes- the kind that clip in, he was the fancy real bike ridder. Another was 42, just crashed over in Kroger, like you see the athletes and others on media.

None of them made it, even with the hospital working for an hour to get the hearts started again. It was a very shocking 14 month time for us to lose 3 good friends is such an unexpected manor.

However, I think what we are seeing in very young athletes is different, and we know, and they have admitted, that young men suffer pericarditis. Why would you take the risk of pericarditis for your kids? For a virus kids have almost no risk?
 
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However, I think what we are seeing in very young athletes is different, and we know, and they have admitted that young men suffer pericarditis. Why would you take the risk of pericarditis for your kids? For a virus kids have almost no risk?
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If I had kids, I don't think I would have agreed for them to get any of the vaccines even when COVID was bad initially. Initially it was hitting older folks and those with health issues pretty hard. Those under 18 were almost immune. Different variants since have changed that a little but they have also gotten weaker overall so the need for these vaccines has gotten less over time. I got the initial Pfizer shots and one booster but none of the others and, at this point, I don't plan on getting any more primarily due to how weak the variants are now.

The thing that annoys me about all this is that many people are convinced that the vaccines are horrible and should have never been produced. The possible long-term affects are not yet known, but it is pretty clear that they made a meaningful difference in a positive way when Omicron hit.
 
I had a physical today with my new Dr since my former recently retired. My b/p was 160 / 99 with a 91 pulse, never been that high that I know of. After the physical they rechecked, it was 138 a 96 with a 88 pulse, still high. I got home and retook it here, it was 144 / 98 and 90 pulse. Not sure why it’s elevated but definitely has me concerned. I went to church after work and set table, chairs, and sound equipment up for tomorrow night’s gospel jam. I rechecked when I got home, it was 135 / 85 with an 82 pulse so getting back close to where it normally is, which is the high end of “normal”.
 
I am completely opposed to children or even young people getting the vaccine. COVID is mostly mild now, and the younger people are usually plenty strong enough to fight it off.

Honestly, I have a hard time justifying the existing vaccines for anyone now, save maybe people who are at great risk. I get why it made sense a couple of years ago, but COVID just isn't what it was and natural immunity seems to be winning the war. I completely suspect history will eventually show that immunity from prior infection is far better than the vaccines. Estimates show at least half of Americans have had COVID (actual numbers are likely higher), so we are, slowly, beating this monster.

Back to myocardial and the other heart issues...some are saying you can also get it from having COVID. If that's true, it would seem that it's something about the antibody response, whether from prior infection of the vaccine, that is causing it. If so, I guess we need to ask ourselves if we want to take our chances with COVID or get this from the jab? When I got a chest x-ray a couple of weeks ago when I had the flu, the doc said my heart appeared enlarged and said I should get it checked (which I am not excited about doing). So who knows, maybe I got it from the WuFlu?

I'm still pro choice when it comes to getting the vaccine. I am totally opposed to mandates. It's an individual choice.

China really screwed us.
 
J-man said:
I had a physical today with my new Dr since my former recently retired. My b/p was 160 / 99 with a 91 pulse, never been that high that I know of. After the physical they rechecked, it was 138 a 96 with a 88 pulse, still high. I got home and retook it here, it was 144 / 98 and 90 pulse. Not sure why it’s elevated but definitely has me concerned. I went to church after work and set table, chairs, and sound equipment up for tomorrow night’s gospel jam. I rechecked when I got home, it was 135 / 85 with an 82 pulse so getting back close to where it normally is, which is the high end of “normal”.
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You're getting to that age, and like many of us, could stand to lose a few. I've been on a BP meds for 3-4 years now. BP was always great when I was ripped, but has definitely gone up with my waistline.
 
Guard Dad said:
You're getting to that age, and like many of us, could stand to lose a few. I've been on a BP meds for 3-4 years now. BP was always great when I was ripped, but has definitely gone up with my waistline.
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I’m holding out as long as I can but I also don’t want to fall victim to a stroke or heart attack. Gonna monitor it closely for the next few days. That may help explain the nagging headaches I’ve have most of the week. Other than that I feel great.
 
J-man said:
I’m holding out as long as I can but I also don’t want to fall victim to a stroke or heart attack. Gonna monitor it closely for the next few days. That may help explain the nagging headaches I’ve have most of the week. Other than that I feel great.
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When the lower number approaches 100, it's potentially serious. Mine runs high, but mostly on the top number.
Keep your eye on that.
 
J-man said:
I had a physical today with my new Dr since my former recently retired. My b/p was 160 / 99 with a 91 pulse, never been that high that I know of. After the physical they rechecked, it was 138 a 96 with a 88 pulse, still high. I got home and retook it here, it was 144 / 98 and 90 pulse. Not sure why it’s elevated but definitely has me concerned. I went to church after work and set table, chairs, and sound equipment up for tomorrow night’s gospel jam. I rechecked when I got home, it was 135 / 85 with an 82 pulse so getting back close to where it normally is, which is the high end of “normal”.
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You might want to get a referral to see a cardiologist who would most likely do an EKG in the office and then send you to have a CT scan on your heart to look for blockages.
 
Boss 302 said:
You might want to get a referral to see a cardiologist who would most likely do an EKG in the office and then send you to have a CT scan on your heart to look for blockages.
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It was 135 / 85 and 82 pulse before bed last night and 116 / 82 with 77 pulse this morning. Not sure why it was elevated yesterday, but i did have a nagging headache. I'm going to monitor my diet closely for the next week or so, I have to get bloodwork done for my physical next week since I wasn't fasting yesterday. Based on those results I'll discuss options with my doctor.
 
J-man said:
It was 135 / 85 and 82 pulse before bed last night and 116 / 82 with 77 pulse this morning. Not sure why it was elevated yesterday, but i did have a nagging headache. I'm going to monitor my diet closely for the next week or so, I have to get bloodwork done for my physical next week since I wasn't fasting yesterday. Based on those results I'll discuss options with my doctor.
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The headaches may have something to do with an ailment or nervous tension, which may cause the blood pressure to elevate. Keep a check on the pressure and what's going on around you, but since it went down by the morning, I'd guess the high pressure was pain related and not a serious problem. One of the things that causes high pressure is fluid retention, like after eating a meal with a lot of sodium in it. watch what you eat and how much you drink for a while and see if that affects your pressure. Remember that bout with heat stroke? Problems with fluid retention may still be a result of that,,, tell the doctor.
 
Paxilpapa said:
The headaches may have something to do with an ailment or nervous tension, which may cause the blood pressure to elevate. Keep a check on the pressure and what's going on around you, but since it went down by the morning, I'd guess the high pressure was pain related and not a serious problem. One of the things that causes high pressure is fluid retention, like after eating a meal with a lot of sodium in it. watch what you eat and how much you drink for a while and see if that affects your pressure. Remember that bout with heat stroke? Problems with fluid retention may still be a result of that,,, tell the doctor.
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I'm thinking it related to getting over the flu and the crud that I got on Christmas day (Happy Birthday Jesus), still have gunk in my head. It was back up at lunch to 153 / 89 & 71 pulse, granted I had been up walking and standing but still up. We never add salt to any dishes, only what comes with the food we prepare. I rarely drink anymore, it's normally a pot of black coffee in the morning followed by water the rest of the day. A glass of Carbmaster ultra-filtered non-fat milk or maybe a root beer or gingerale for soda but not even weekly for those. I'm type 2 diabetic and lately there's been a lot of oatmeal cookies and other goodies from the holidays. I'm sure my A1C is up which would affect my triglycerides, which would in turn affect my b/p. Gotta get off the cookies and get over the crud.
 
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