Covid is right here, and it's getting bad fast.

Guard Dad said:
Someone tell me why this makes any sense?

www.politico.com

Biden's team tightens grip on state use of Covid antibody treatments

Federal health officials plan to allocate specific amounts to each state under the new approach.
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Nope... way to punish Florida, Texas, Idaho and other Republican Governors who are not mandating shots, lock downs, and masks.

One world government and marxism here we come. Get ready for no food on the shelves.

Remember it is for "equity" because otherwise it isn't "fair".
 
Far West said:
Nope... way to punish Florida, Texas, Idaho and other Republican Governors who are not mandating shots, lock downs, and masks.

One world government and marxism here we come. Get ready for no food on the shelves.

Remember it is for "equity" because otherwise it isn't "fair".
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He's trying to force reliance on the vaccine.

And they wonder why people don't trust them.
 
Guard Dad said:
He's trying to force reliance on the vaccine.

And they wonder why people don't trust them.
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Vaccine does not work... it only recognises the spike proteins. With the Delta variant from India, it is not enough to only recognize the spike protein.

There are no T cell antibodies like what your body would have if you got Covid... therefor... this is not a vaccine. Unlike what was developed for Polio, mumps, rubella, measles... it does not work.

Just like masks don't work: masks keep out covid like a chain link fence keeps out mosquitos... the vaccine they say gives "protection"... Lots of false info from our dear leaders.

Seems to be false: 432 deaths... same problems as no vaccine... deadly...
  • There have been 1,728 hospitalizations for fully vaccinated Illinois residents, with 432 deaths
www.dailymail.co.uk

Obituary blames unvaccinated for the death of Illinois woman

The family of fully vaccinated Springfield, Illinois woman Candace Ayers, 66, blamed the millions of unvaccinated Americans in her obituary after she died from COVID-19
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You friggin people are off the rails!!!! Your absolute ignorance embarrasses me,,, I'm done with this place, have a nice life!!!!!!!
 
Far West said:
There are no T cell antibodies like what your body would have if you got Covid... therefor... this is not a vaccine. Unlike what was developed for Polio, mumps, rubella, measles... it does not work.
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www.news-medical.net

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines induce T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2

Researchers in the United States have shown that the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines are effective at generating T-cell immunity against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) – the agent that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
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Do mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines induce memory T cell response similar to natural infection?

A team of scientists from the United States has recently compared the epitope-specific T cell response after natural severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection or vaccination in both naïve and previously infected individuals.
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The vaccines do an amazing job of reducing the chance of major sickness and death for those that get infected. That doesn't mean vaccinated people can't get COVID. It doesn't mean that no vaccinated people will die from COVID. It doesn't mean that no vaccinated people will get really sick with COVID. The vaccines were never sold as being 100% effective but they have been very effective at limiting major sickness and death among those that got the shots. Numbers coming directly from hospitals showing the overwhelming majority of recent and current patients being unvaccinated prove this to be true.
 
cptlo said:
www.news-medical.net

Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines induce T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2

Researchers in the United States have shown that the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines are effective at generating T-cell immunity against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) – the agent that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
www.news-medical.net www.news-medical.net

www.news-medical.net

Do mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines induce memory T cell response similar to natural infection?

A team of scientists from the United States has recently compared the epitope-specific T cell response after natural severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection or vaccination in both naïve and previously infected individuals.
www.news-medical.net www.news-medical.net



The vaccines do an amazing job of reducing the chance of major sickness and death for those that get infected. That doesn't mean vaccinated people can't get COVID. It doesn't mean that no vaccinated people will die from COVID. It doesn't mean that no vaccinated people will get really sick with COVID. The vaccines were never sold as being 100% effective but they have been very effective at limiting major sickness and death among those that got the shots. Numbers coming directly from hospitals showing the overwhelming majority of recent and current patients being unvaccinated prove this to be true.
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The children and those under 30 have no reason to ever take the jab. If they get covid, they will come through just fine. On the other hand with anything you inject in your body there can be side effects.

The 20 year olds that got covid and were fully vaccinated that I know had the same time frame and symptoms as non vaccinated. I was shocked that they were actually down for longer than some who were only sick for 7 to 8 days back in December and November prior to vaccines.

I am no longer a believer... the more the stories come out I see that only when enough people actually have covid will we stop this virus.
 
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Far West said:
The children and those under 30 have no reason to ever take the jab. If they get covid, they will come through just fine. On the other hand with anything you inject in your body there can be side effects.

They 20 year olds that got covid and were fully vaccinated that I know had the same time frame and symptoms as non vaccinated. I was shocked that they were actually down for longer than some who were only sick for 7 to 8 days back in December and November prior to vaccines.

I am no longer a believer... the more the stories come out I see that only when enough people actually have covid will we stop this virus.
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OK...accepting the 30 and under argument....what about the rest of the population? Do we just let them die if they get a bad case of COVID (which is far less likely if they have had the vaccine)?
 
Paxilpapa said:
You friggin people are off the rails!!!! Your absolute ignorance embarrasses me,,, I'm done with this place, have a nice life!!!!!!!
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I didn't say the vaccines don't work. But it's pretty clear that the vaccine has become everything to them.
 
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This is yet another example of why people are questioning things.

Both Pfizer and Moderna are now saying the effectiveness of the vaccines wear off over time and that could make the vaccinated more likely to catch COVID. The White House says the vaccinated need boosters.

The FDA (whom I probably trust more than the ones above) says boosters are usually not needed.

Add to that no recognition of natural immunity and the fact that Biden allows people to pour across the southern border, many of whom carry COVID.

Hence my statement above, it appears that big pharma and Biden are working very hard to sell vaccines whether they are needed or not.

Nothing anti-vax about these statements, just that there is likely corruption involved.
 
Guard Dad said:
Interesting

www.theepochtimes.com

FDA Panel Votes Against Pfizer’s COVID Booster for Everyone, Recommends It for People 65 and Older

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This has been my cringe for the government mandating children getting this vaccine for a virus that does not endanger them.

From the article:
But an FDA slide said the risk of COVID-19 for a healthy 30-year-old is just 0.0004 percent, or 1 in 250,000, bolstering arguments against boosters being recommended for the general population. Some recommended a booster for older individuals but several experts said they want more data about whether the booster shots can contribute to myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation.

Dr. James Hildreth, a voting member on the FDA expert panel, said that he “[has] a serious concern of myocarditis in young people.” The FDA previously issued warnings that, while rare, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, both of which are built on messenger RNA technology, could cause myocarditis or pericarditis among younger individuals.
 
Far West said:
This has been my cringe for the government mandating children getting this vaccine for a virus that does not endanger them.

From the article:
But an FDA slide said the risk of COVID-19 for a healthy 30-year-old is just 0.0004 percent, or 1 in 250,000, bolstering arguments against boosters being recommended for the general population. Some recommended a booster for older individuals but several experts said they want more data about whether the booster shots can contribute to myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation.

Dr. James Hildreth, a voting member on the FDA expert panel, said that he “[has] a serious concern of myocarditis in young people.” The FDA previously issued warnings that, while rare, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, both of which are built on messenger RNA technology, could cause myocarditis or pericarditis among younger individuals.
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The thought of children getting this vax frightens me. That might just be an emotional reaction, but it still does.
 
Guard Dad said:
The thought of children getting this vax frightens me. That might just be an emotional reaction, but it still does.
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Children do not die of Covid, but the myocarditis or pericarditis has killed and injured children.

There is no benefit to the children to be vaxed because, unless obese, they do not have death or complications... remember this is the boomer remover due to the inflammation response in older adults.

Unlike the flu or H1N1, Covid is not deadly or causing problems in the young.

I wonder why the government's rabidness to vax this population that has no true need of the vaccine.

Remember it was feared the kids would kill grandma by giving it to her because with kids, often they are almost symptom free.
 
Far West said:
Children do not die of Covid, but the myocarditis or pericarditis has killed and injured children.

There is no benefit to the children to be vaxed because, unless obese, they do not have death or complications... remember this is the boomer remover due to the inflammation response in older adults.

Unlike the flu or H1N1, Covid is not deadly or causing problems in the young.

I wonder why the government's rabidness to vax this population that has no true need of the vaccine.

Remember it was feared the kids would kill grandma by giving it to her because with kids, often they are almost symptom free.
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Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths.
 
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