Covid is right here, and it's getting bad fast.

Guard Dad

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..... sounds like wishful thinking on his part.
Oh, big pharma has made out like bandits over this. Actually, I have no problem with that to a degree; they have the expertise and resources to make a needed product, and they deserve to be well paid for it.

But is does seem like they are trying to squeeze it for all they can now. That's where the lines get blurred.

My personal opinion, and it ain't worth crap, is that we're on the back side of this thing. I think that between the vaccine and natural immunity, we're approaching or have reached some level of herd immunity. COVID isn't gone and people will still get sick, but I doubt at near the numbers we've been seeing.

And that raises the question, will COVID-19 ever totally go away? I honestly don't know. Maybe not. Above my pay grade.
 

Guard Dad

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Oh and, .56 today. It bounces back and forth a bit, but has been steadily dropping for some time now. Just imagine how low it could be if we didn't have sick people pouring across the boarder.
 

Boss 302

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Oh, big pharma has made out like bandits over this. Actually, I have no problem with that to a degree; they have the expertise and resources to make a needed product, and they deserve to be well paid for it.

But is does seem like they are trying to squeeze it for all they can now. That's where the lines get blurred.

My personal opinion, and it ain't worth crap, is that we're on the back side of this thing. I think that between the vaccine and natural immunity, we're approaching or have reached some level of herd immunity. COVID isn't gone and people will still get sick, but I doubt at near the numbers we've been seeing.

And that raises the question, will COVID-19 ever totally go away? I honestly don't know. Maybe not. Above my pay grade.
Phizer charges a total of $39 for the two vaccinations a person gets.
Moderna charges $37 per dose.
J&J charges $10 per dose.
 

Guard Dad

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Phizer charges a total of $39 for the two vaccinations a person gets.
Moderna charges $37 per dose.
J&J charges $10 per dose.
Times how many millions?

Really, I'm fine with that, and I stated so. But it looks like they are trying to keep it going now, even when the FDA says it's not necessary.
 

ABTHREE

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We (wife&self) have Medicare insurance were not charged for the vaccine but were charged for the administration of the vaccine. $34 for the first one and $57 for the second.
 

Far West

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We (wife&self) have Medicare insurance were not charged for the vaccine but were charged for the administration of the vaccine. $34 for the first one and $57 for the second.

I think that was illegal.

Medicare Billing for COVID-19 Vaccine Shot Administration​

There’s No Out-of-Pocket Cost for Your Patients

Patients can get the COVID-19 vaccine, including additional doses and booster doses, without a physician’s order or supervision, and they pay nothing for the vaccine and its administration. If you participate in the CDC COVID-19 Vaccination Program, you must:
  • Administer the vaccine with no out-of-pocket cost to your patients for the vaccine or administration of the vaccine
  • Vaccinate everyone, including the uninsured, regardless of coverage or network status
You also can’t:
  • Balance bill for COVID-19 vaccinations
  • Charge your patients for an office visit or other fee if COVID-19 vaccination is the only medical service given
  • Require additional medical or other services during the visit as a condition for getting a COVID-19 vaccination
Report any potential violations of these requirements to the HHS Office of the Inspector General:
 

Far West

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We (wife&self) have Medicare insurance were not charged for the vaccine but were charged for the administration of the vaccine. $34 for the first one and $57 for the second.
And here from the CDC:

COVID-19 Vaccines Are Free to the Public​

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What You Need to Know​

  • COVID-19 vaccines are available for everyone at no cost.
  • Vaccines were paid for with taxpayer dollars and will be given to all people living in the United States, regardless of insurance or immigration status.
  • COVID-19 vaccination is an important tool to help stop the pandemic.
  • CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you can.

Be Aware of Scams​

If anyone asks you to pay for access to a COVID-19 vaccine, you can bet it’s a scam. Don’t share your personal or financial information if someone calls, texts, or emails you promising access to a vaccine for an extra fee.
COVID-19 vaccination providers cannot:
  • Charge you for a vaccine
  • Charge you directly for any administration fees, copays, or coinsurance
  • Deny vaccination to anyone who does not have health insurance coverage, is underinsured, or is out of network
  • Charge an office visit or other fee to the recipient if the only service provided is a COVID-19 vaccination
  • Require additional services in order for a person to receive a COVID-19 vaccine; however, additional healthcare services can be provided at the same time and billed as appropriate
COVID-19 vaccination providers can:

Anyone in the United States Can Get Vaccinated​

The federal government is providing vaccines free of charge to all people living in the United States, regardless of their immigration or health insurance status.
Ensuring that everyone in the United States can receive a COVID-19 vaccine helps us get closer to the goal of achieving population immunity. Population immunity makes it harder for COVID-19 to spread from person to person, and it even helps protect people who cannot receive a vaccine, like newborns.
CDC does not require U.S. citizenship for individuals to receive a COVID-19 vaccine. Jurisdictions (state, tribal, local, and territorial) cannot add U.S. citizenship requirements or require U.S. citizenship verification as a requirement for vaccination.



What if I receive a bill for my COVID-19 vaccine?​

If you receive a bill for your COVID-19 vaccine, you may need to file a claim with your insurance company since they're required to cover approved preventive care under the Affordable Care Act.

If you don't have insurance and receive a bill, regulations state that the doctors will be able to get paid through the Health Resources and Services Administration's Provider Relief Fund, according to the CDC, so you'll need to contact the clinic or hospital where you received the immunization.

If you receive a bill for administration fees, follow the same protocols as above since providers can't charge you this fee.
 
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