Michigan School Shooter's Father Convicted of Manslaughter

Guard Dad said:
I say again...we should be getting them counseling instead of encouraging them to play cut and paste with body parts.
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Yes.

I think there is a progressive agenda to not get the children care they need. There is no longer psychological care, the placement in an alternative school, or institution. We have a mental health epidemic. Potentially because our society has no standards or morals and it is impacting our children.

The more chaos there is in schools, the more kids like this get passed over. Everyone sees it, no one does anything. Every time there is a mass shooting, the stories come out that everyone saw the problems, but no one did anything.

You can't even demand as a parent that a kid causing fear in a classroom or school, is suspended from school or sent to another one when horrible things happen. Our schools and the counselors are not equipt for a kid like "Ethan", they also see so many who are similar to him.
 
Guard Dad said:
I don't see why not. It's Biblical.
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I think it occurs more than most Christians believe. A demon may have possessed this kid we are discussing. Trans have a very high suicide rate. Demonic possession may have a lot to do with it.
 
Boss 302 said:
I think it occurs more than most Christians believe. A demon may have possessed this kid we are discussing. Trans have a very high suicide rate. Demonic possession may have a lot to do with it.
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If we go with that premise then it’s also possible a demon blocked the parents from “seeing” their kid’s mental issues. There are so many unanswered questions with this case and none of us know the details. It’s just alarming that any of us could find ourselves or our loved ones in a similar situation. Think about a grandparent giving a “hand-me-down” family pew pew to a grandchild as a gift the a few years later something go array.
 
J-man said:
If we go with that premise then it’s also possible a demon blocked the parents from “seeing” their kid’s mental issues. There are so many unanswered questions with this case and none of us know the details. It’s just alarming that any of us could find ourselves or our loved ones in a similar situation. Think about a grandparent giving a “hand-me-down” family pew pew to a grandchild as a gift the a few years later something go array.
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You must have missed the part where the kid told his parents he saw demons and heard voices.
 
Boss 302 said:
You must have missed the part where the kid told his parents he saw demons and heard voices.
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Possibly, like you must have missed the part where I said a demon could have blocked the parents from seeing their kid’s mental issues. I also said none of us really know all of the details and that it’s just a sad situation which could happen to any of us or our loved ones.
 

What’s driving the youth mental health crisis? We asked 1,400 clinicians.​

Here’s what survey respondents said about their dissatisfaction with current resources*:​

  • “Rural areas around us have little to no resources.”
  • “I work in an adult emergency room but children are brought in frequently for mental health issues … We have no resources to treat children here. The surrounding community has a lack of resources.”
  • “The resources are only as good as the people delivering the services and affordability.”
  • “There are so many kids and teens in need of quality therapy, and not enough providers.”
  • “There is a shortage of people who can treat children, especially under age 10.”
  • “Waitlists tend to be 6-12 months to get into services.”
  • “Many schools don’t even have guidance counselors for students to go to talk to if needed. Some will have counselors only once a week.”
*Based on a random sampling of anonymized responses from 904 mental health professionals who provided additional comments on their level of satisfaction with current resources in POLITICO’s survey.

Here is what some providers told POLITICO about the barriers they face:​

  • “There are too few practitioners trained to treat children. There is particularly a shortage of prescribers trained to treat children.”
  • “Families do not have the bandwidth to address mental health issues outside of school, but the providers cannot adequately address trauma in the schools. I have a hard time, as a social worker, getting a hold of parents and diagnosing problems. It is hard to do a thorough assessment.”
  • “Having to choose between paying for therapeutic services and living expenses, inflation, [and] insurance coverage, thinking 4-6 sessions are sufficient.”
  • “Insurance reimbursement is TERRIBLE and many providers are turning to self-pay which then limits services to clients that can afford to pay out of pocket.”

Mental health professionals also cited a number of contributing factors in the youth mental health crisis:​

  • “Lack of access to resources, poverty, abuse, neglect.”
  • “When it comes to resiliency, many children don’t have the cognitive flexibility to adjust to changes in their environment.”
  • “Pressures about college admission are another factor. Maybe the biggest factor is the anxiety adults have about teens which causes teens to lose confidence in themselves.”
  • “It’s ironic because I believe social media and social isolation both contribute. Social media has been a boon to students previously isolated (LGBTQ+, autism spectrum), but also heightens social comparisons, FOMO, and harassment. Even adults get Zoom fatigue from being stared at by others attending meetings.”
  • “Identity politics is causing huge swaths of children to feel unsafe, and is intensifying the need for conformity, therefore increasing pressure to be a certain way.”
Clinicians overwhelmingly reported that anxiety and depression were the top concerns and diagnoses they are seeing increase in frequency and severity among those under age 18.
 
Now you have to ask yourself why are so many youth suffering from mental illness. How many come from dysfunctional families and single-parent homes compared to nuclear families? How many are from Christian homes compared to non-Christian homes?
 
Far West said:

What’s driving the youth mental health crisis? We asked 1,400 clinicians.​

Here’s what survey respondents said about their dissatisfaction with current resources*:​

  • “Rural areas around us have little to no resources.”
  • “I work in an adult emergency room but children are brought in frequently for mental health issues … We have no resources to treat children here. The surrounding community has a lack of resources.”
  • “The resources are only as good as the people delivering the services and affordability.”
  • “There are so many kids and teens in need of quality therapy, and not enough providers.”
  • “There is a shortage of people who can treat children, especially under age 10.”
  • “Waitlists tend to be 6-12 months to get into services.”
  • “Many schools don’t even have guidance counselors for students to go to talk to if needed. Some will have counselors only once a week.”
*Based on a random sampling of anonymized responses from 904 mental health professionals who provided additional comments on their level of satisfaction with current resources in POLITICO’s survey.

Here is what some providers told POLITICO about the barriers they face:​

  • “There are too few practitioners trained to treat children. There is particularly a shortage of prescribers trained to treat children.”
  • “Families do not have the bandwidth to address mental health issues outside of school, but the providers cannot adequately address trauma in the schools. I have a hard time, as a social worker, getting a hold of parents and diagnosing problems. It is hard to do a thorough assessment.”
  • “Having to choose between paying for therapeutic services and living expenses, inflation, [and] insurance coverage, thinking 4-6 sessions are sufficient.”
  • “Insurance reimbursement is TERRIBLE and many providers are turning to self-pay which then limits services to clients that can afford to pay out of pocket.”

Mental health professionals also cited a number of contributing factors in the youth mental health crisis:​

  • “Lack of access to resources, poverty, abuse, neglect.”
  • “When it comes to resiliency, many children don’t have the cognitive flexibility to adjust to changes in their environment.”
  • “Pressures about college admission are another factor. Maybe the biggest factor is the anxiety adults have about teens which causes teens to lose confidence in themselves.”
  • “It’s ironic because I believe social media and social isolation both contribute. Social media has been a boon to students previously isolated (LGBTQ+, autism spectrum), but also heightens social comparisons, FOMO, and harassment. Even adults get Zoom fatigue from being stared at by others attending meetings.”
  • “Identity politics is causing huge swaths of children to feel unsafe, and is intensifying the need for conformity, therefore increasing pressure to be a certain way.”
Clinicians overwhelmingly reported that anxiety and depression were the top concerns and diagnoses they are seeing increase in frequency and severity among those under age 18.
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Remember, POLITICO leans left.
 
Boss 302 said:
Remember, POLITICO leans left.
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So do psychology councilors, Attorneys, Judges, school teachers and administrators, and main stream media.

The truth is most of our institutions have been taken over by the left... and we capitulate and agree to go along. We are afraid of being destroyed by them, so we go along.

We have allowed our schools to keep kids who should not be there due to the unrest and chaos they add to classrooms.

We have allowed kids to remain in classrooms, who are dangerous, to the teachers and other students.

I did not vote for that... but the liberals have invested their time and talent to be voted in as board members of our schools as well as most other institutions.
 
Far West said:
So do psychology councilors, Attorneys, Judges, school teachers and administrators, and main stream media.

The truth is most of our institutions have been taken over by the left... and we capitulate and agree to go along. We are afraid of being destroyed by them, so we go along.

We have allowed our schools to keep kids who should not be there due to the unrest and chaos they add to classrooms.

We have allowed kids to remain in classrooms, who are dangerous, to the teachers and other students.

I did not vote for that... but the liberals have invested their time and talent to be voted in as board members of our schools as well as most other institutions.
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The root of the problem is mostly found at home.
 
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