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ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
I do. The human body has an amazing capacity to adapt to it's environment over time. With exposure to the sun, our skin naturally darkens which gives us some resistance to it's rays.
To some degree, I think we have intervened in the body's natural processes by slathering excessive potions all over it.

Is this how black people are made? (I'm sorry, every time I read this, that question pops into my head!!! :whistle

LOL

Well, tanning is temporary. When exposed to sunlight, the body releases melanin into your skin that absorbs UV radiation and darkens the skin as a protective measure. In the absence of sunlight, the process reverses.

Having stated...there is some indication that races originating in climates with more direct sun developed darker skin. Perhaps the effects of an evolutionary process (not to be confused with the 'we came from monkeys' theory) over time to adapt to the harsher sun.

But I suspect there are more factors at play too...definite differences in DNA and such.

I am not opposed to sunscreen, I use it when needed. But I have not and will not buy into what I believe is one of the largest marketing hoaxes of the century. Sunlight is free, it has no marketing department. Cosmetic manufacturers, OTOH, pour billions into advertizing their products every year. And now, the federal government has found a way to tax us on tanning through Obamacare.
Huh? So because sunlight is free it won't kill you? Billions in advertising their products. I just do not get what you are saying at all. And you are not opposed to sunscreen, but it is a hoax?
I know personally 12 people that have had skin cancer. One lost half his nose, the other his life. Please explain that hoax.

The problem is taking it to extreme.

Skin cancer is real, but it's usually caused by genetics, exposure to carcinogens, or excessive exposure to the sun...including and especially sun burn.

It isn't necessary to slather one's self in sunscreen anytime they walk out the door. It isn't necessary to avoid all UV. Just keep it in moderation and don't burn.

This near-paranoia that has been created over the issue will likely increase instances of cancer by lowering people's tolerance to sun and increasing instances of burning.

Finding some reasonable ground in the middle is what would be best for us all.
 
I was at my son's football camp this week. NO, I am not a helicopter parent, it was too far away for driving back and forth 4 times in one day. Any ways back to the topic. For some unknown reason I had an Epiphany, and figured out that animals always rest during the heat of the day. With the exception of the genetic mutations, animals don't need sunscreen. That being stated, I do use sunscreen with the lowest UV rating I feel is right for my skin.
I also noticed when looking at pictures of myself growing up, I had color even during the winter time. Keep in mind I grew up in Florida. We were always outside.
If we did use a "sunscreen" it was baby oil and Iodine.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I do. The human body has an amazing capacity to adapt to it's environment over time. With exposure to the sun, our skin naturally darkens which gives us some resistance to it's rays.

To some degree, I think we have intervened in the body's natural processes by slathering excessive potions all over it.

I agree with you. I don't think we give God enough credit for having made us.
Well the devil stepped in and gave us cancer. Luckily with the Lords grace he gave someone the knowledge in this area to create something that will help us avoid getting it.
As GD said, it's a matter of degree. Have you seen the Environmental Working Group sunscreen information page? Things are not as cut-and-dry as the pharmaceutical/cosmetic industry would have us believe. http://breakingnews.ewg.org/2012sunscreen/sunscreens-exposed/sunscreen-and-skin-cancer/

The power of sunscreens to protect against sunburn is well established. This is the feature of sunscreens identified as the Sun Protection Factor or SPF. Yet sunscreens allow people with fair skin to stay outdoors longer, often to get a tan or to maximize burn-free time in the sun. In the process, they are intensely exposed to UVA rays, which do not cause burning but inflict more subtle damage (Autier 2009, Lautenschlager 2007). Meanwhile, research findings conflict.

Skin cancer is the most common cancer in the United States, accounting for nearly half of all cases. The latest statistics raise questions about most effective ways to avoid skin cancer:
•More than two million Americans develop skin cancer each year (Bikle 2008, Rogers 2010, ACS 2010).
•Skin cancer is five times more prevalent in the U.S. population than breast or prostate cancers (Stern 2010).

Even though more people are using sunscreens than ever before, and products are improving in quality, the incidence of skin cancer in the United States and other countries continues to rise (Aceituno-Madera 2010, Jemal 2008, Osterlind 1992). In fact, a number of studies conducted in the 1990s reported higher, not lower, incidence of the deadliest form of skin cancer, malignant melanoma, among frequent sunscreen users (Autier 1998, Beitner 1990, Westerdahl 2000, Wolf 1998). But other studies suggest that sunscreens protect against melanoma (Autier 1995, Green 2010, Westerdahl 2000, Wolf 1994).
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
I do. The human body has an amazing capacity to adapt to it's environment over time. With exposure to the sun, our skin naturally darkens which gives us some resistance to it's rays.
To some degree, I think we have intervened in the body's natural processes by slathering excessive potions all over it.

Is this how black people are made? (I'm sorry, every time I read this, that question pops into my head!!! :whistle

LOL

Well, tanning is temporary. When exposed to sunlight, the body releases melanin into your skin that absorbs UV radiation and darkens the skin as a protective measure. In the absence of sunlight, the process reverses.

Having stated...there is some indication that races originating in climates with more direct sun developed darker skin. Perhaps the effects of an evolutionary process (not to be confused with the 'we came from monkeys' theory) over time to adapt to the harsher sun.

But I suspect there are more factors at play too...definite differences in DNA and such.

I am not opposed to sunscreen, I use it when needed. But I have not and will not buy into what I believe is one of the largest marketing hoaxes of the century. Sunlight is free, it has no marketing department. Cosmetic manufacturers, OTOH, pour billions into advertizing their products every year. And now, the federal government has found a way to tax us on tanning through Obamacare.
Huh? So because sunlight is free it won't kill you? Billions in advertising their products. I just do not get what you are saying at all. And you are not opposed to sunscreen, but it is a hoax?
I know personally 12 people that have had skin cancer. One lost half his nose, the other his life. Please explain that hoax.

SD,

Please read the quotes--intelligent and well-researched--about sunscreen and cancer from the Environmental Working Group. I agree that you need to follow the money here. There is a huge incentive for these companies to produce a lot of hype that might be more in the interest of their bottom line than in the interest of our health.
 
G I know more about skin cancer than you can imagine. I have read those studies. It is still a mixed conclusion on the most dangerous types, but even at that show the less dangerous types can be prevented.

Bottom line: I will never ever agree that sunscreen should not be worn.

If you are going to be outside during the heat of the day in shorts and t shirts (most ALL around here) and do not use sunscreen, well I personally believe those people to be playing roulette and not the brightest of folks.
 
ShoeDiva said:
G I know more about skin cancer than you can imagine. I have read those studies. It is still a mixed conclusion on the most dangerous types, but even at that show the less dangerous types can be prevented.

Bottom line: I will never ever agree that sunscreen should not be worn.

If you are going to be outside during the heat of the day in shorts and t shirts (most ALL around here) and do not use sunscreen, well I personally believe those people to be playing roulette and not the brightest of folks.

I lather up in Olive oil so I should be fine right? Oh, and its the EVOO type.
 
BeatBoxinGranny47 said:
ShoeDiva said:
G I know more about skin cancer than you can imagine. I have read those studies. It is still a mixed conclusion on the most dangerous types, but even at that show the less dangerous types can be prevented.

Bottom line: I will never ever agree that sunscreen should not be worn.

If you are going to be outside during the heat of the day in shorts and t shirts (most ALL around here) and do not use sunscreen, well I personally believe those people to be playing roulette and not the brightest of folks.

I lather up in Olive oil so I should be fine right? Oh, and its the EVOO type.
yes Casper, you will be fine. :))
 
ShoeDiva said:
BeatBoxinGranny47 said:
ShoeDiva said:
G I know more about skin cancer than you can imagine. I have read those studies. It is still a mixed conclusion on the most dangerous types, but even at that show the less dangerous types can be prevented.

Bottom line: I will never ever agree that sunscreen should not be worn.

If you are going to be outside during the heat of the day in shorts and t shirts (most ALL around here) and do not use sunscreen, well I personally believe those people to be playing roulette and not the brightest of folks.

I lather up in Olive oil so I should be fine right? Oh, and its the EVOO type.
yes Casper, you will be fine. :))

That hurt..... The more I sit in the sun, the whiter I get. I'm damn near clear right now.
 
BeatBoxinGranny47 said:
ShoeDiva said:
BeatBoxinGranny47 said:
ShoeDiva said:
G I know more about skin cancer than you can imagine. I have read those studies. It is still a mixed conclusion on the most dangerous types, but even at that show the less dangerous types can be prevented.

Bottom line: I will never ever agree that sunscreen should not be worn.

If you are going to be outside during the heat of the day in shorts and t shirts (most ALL around here) and do not use sunscreen, well I personally believe those people to be playing roulette and not the brightest of folks.

I lather up in Olive oil so I should be fine right? Oh, and its the EVOO type.
yes Casper, you will be fine. :))

That hurt..... The more I sit in the sun, the whiter I get. I'm damn near clear right now.
:snick_bunny
 
All I know is that I have to put sunscreen on and I will put it on my kids. All of us are, as SD put it, Casper-like. I have always been like this...the one time I tried going to the tanning bed, I laid in there for literally 3 min and came home a lobster. Some people are just more sensitive. I can't go outside for more than a little while and not get burned...heck, I get burned when the sun isn't even out!
 
MamaHog said:
All I know is that I have to put sunscreen on and I will put it on my kids. All of us are, as SD put it, Casper-like. I have always been like this...the one time I tried going to the tanning bed, I laid in there for literally 3 min and came home a lobster. Some people are just more sensitive. I can't go outside for more than a little while and not get burned...heck, I get burned when the sun isn't even out!

Yep, some people are far more sensitive than others, especially the very fair skinned. The Irish, for example, tend to be very fair skinned and burn easily.

They can usually still tan, but it takes a long time and they have to start out very slow until enough melantin is built up in their skin to create some pigment. It took me awhile to get a base tan, but once I did I tanned pretty well and don't easily burn.
 
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