Psycho GF drives boy to commit suicide - GUILTY!

She is to some degree responsible for the unnatural death of another human being. She will appeal. Depends on what judge hears her appeal as to the outcome. Even if over turned she will be found guilty of some form of complicity. She is by any account a horrible person which unfortunately is not against the law. I hope her parents are proud of the spoiled sociopathic little bitch.
I can not even imagine being her parent. :tissue:
 
Yes, yes she did. She assisted him.

If the outcome of the trial was different I would feel the same way.
I would agree if she cranked the generator, shut the door, heck even filled the generator with gas. The word assist involves a physical act. The word advise does not, and advising one on suicide is not against the law. She is a horrible excuse for a human being, but that's perfectly legal.
 
Yes, yes she did. She assisted him.

If the outcome of the trial was different I would feel the same way.
Sorry but I disagree. She was evil, vile, and disgusting.....but she didn't kill him. He was sick, weak, and easily manipulated...and made the ultimate decision to end his life.
 
I seriously doubt that the verdict will stand, and I'm concerned that she'll end up getting off scott free because they convicted her of the wrong charge.

I'm not a legal expert, but it seems to me that a charge of being an accessory to or contributing to would make more sense.
 
I seriously doubt that the verdict will stand, and I'm concerned that she'll end up getting off scott free because they convicted her of the wrong charge.

I'm not a legal expert, but it seems to me that a charge of being an accessory to or contributing to would make more sense.
When broken down line by line I completely see the argument, and I am in agreement with the involuntary manslaughter charge. Contributing and not doing anything was mentioned as requirements of the involuntary manslaughter charge. The judge did cite a similar instance and I believe he was very thorough in his explanation of why. There were thousands of texts, she tried covering her tracks, she had access to contact family or even police and did not, he is not even saying that Conrod would not have attempted and succeeded at another time, but that he had tried before, and stopped. He stopped again this time and because of her direction (and obviously the thought that she loved and cared for him) got back in the vehicle and died. She urged him back into a vehicle knowing that the vehicle with the carbon monoxide flowing would not allow a human to sustain life.
I know many are freaking out over freedom of speech, but you know there are times when you do not have that freedom, and I do think this is a great example of one of those times. (again, it is not a quick her saying,"go kill yourself loser," or his threatening and her saying,"go right ahead, I know you won't." this is ongoing and calculated to get the result she wanted and to play the grieving gf)
I will pray it sticks. I do not see the judge giving her many years, and I truly hope he sentences her to get help. She is crazy.
 
There are two terms under law that might apply to this case. One is complicity and the other is abetment. Complicity is usually applied to criminal acts like theft or murder. Suicide is technically not considered murder. However there are laws pertaining to abetment or assisting in suicide. Depending on the interpretation of law she could be guilty of abetment and therefore defacto complicity. It is complicated and I have no idea if this avenue will be addressed by the prosecutor. Complicity to murder can carry a 25 year sentence.
 
And I think this sets a potentially dangerous precedent for freedom of speech cases.
I do not. I am taking it the same as "Fire." Yell that outside, nothing. Yell it in a theater and you have just put hundreds of people at risk when they trample each other out of the room. If she said it once or twice. Horrible, but just a horrible person. She said it over and over,instructed him, and was in a position to help at the end and not only did not, when he stopped his attempt, told him to continue. This is definitely a complicated case because of how everything occurred, but I do not see it as a problem with having freedom of speech,more of your words and actions have consequences.
 
http://www.11alive.com/news/nation-...sentenced-to-15-months-manslaughter/461720085

TAUNTON, MASS. (AP) - The woman who sent her boyfriend dozens of texts urging him to kill himself was sentenced to 15 months in jail for manslaughter Thursday afternoon.

The judge also suspended the sentence pending appeal. That usually means that the judge believes himself to be correct but has been advised otherwise or heard a different point of view from a trusted colleague.
 
The judge also suspended the sentence pending appeal. That usually means that the judge believes himself to be correct but has been advised otherwise or heard a different point of view from a trusted colleague.
The judge made a statement regarding rehabilitation so I do not believe that he was going to send her to any place that would be hard anyway. He immediately granted the suspended sentence in court when her lawyer made the request. While I know that some do not agree with his judgement, I am reading many practicing (not just I am a lawyer on tv type) state they do believe his judgement will hold and that it was fair. IDK. I think she totally needs mental help and should not be released into the public without some type of long term therapy happening. She is a sicko and they really do not rehabilitate in prison.
 
I doubt we've heard the last of this. I still say they charged her with the wrong crime.
 
I still say she'll serve no jail time (because she didn't kill the guy). She may get counseling and probation but will serve no jail time.
 
And I think this sets a potentially dangerous precedent for freedom of speech cases.
How so? After reading some of the text messages that were released in the news, what she did was a lot like yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. We both know that if someone did did something like that and someone is trampled to death as a result of the crowd trying to run out, whoever yelled fire is going to be criminally charged.
 
How so? After reading some of the text messages that were released in the news, what she did was a lot like yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. We both know that if someone did did something like that and someone is trampled to death as a result of the crowd trying to run out, whoever yelled fire is going to be criminally charged.
Not the same thing.

I'm worried that this will be a slippery slope. What will be the next thing someone says that gets them charged because of something someone else does? What if, after one of your political debates, a liberal you were arguing with commits suicide and you are blamed for driving them to it?

Could happen.
 
Not the same thing.

I'm worried that this will be a slippery slope. What will be the next thing someone says that gets them charged because of something someone else does? What if, after one of your political debates, a liberal you were arguing with commits suicide and you are blamed for driving them to it?

Could happen.
I think there's a big difference between, "You're an idiot because you're a liberal," than "Now that you have the rag in the exhaust, get back in the truck and die. You will be doing yourself and the world a favor once you're dead."
 
I think there's a big difference between, "You're an idiot because you're a liberal," than "Now that you have the rag in the exhaust, get back in the truck and die. You will be doing yourself and the world a favor once you're dead."
That difference might have just become smaller.
 
How so? After reading some of the text messages that were released in the news, what she did was a lot like yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. We both know that if someone did did something like that and someone is trampled to death as a result of the crowd trying to run out, whoever yelled fire is going to be criminally charged.

I think there's a big difference between, "You're an idiot because you're a liberal," than "Now that you have the rag in the exhaust, get back in the truck and die. You will be doing yourself and the world a favor once you're dead."
Pigs are flying......:emoji_pig2:

:eek:I agree with your statements.
 
U.S. NEWS
Michelle Carter, who encouraged boyfriend's suicide, ordered to start sentence immediately
Massachusetts Supreme Court had already upheld her 2017 conviction for involuntary manslaughter in Conrad Roy III's death.

Michelle Carter was sentenced to 15 months in jail in 2017 for her role in the death of Conrad Roy III, but the judge allowed her to remain free while she appealed in state court. Massachusetts’ highest court upheld her conviction last week, saying her actions caused Roy’s death.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...oyfriend-s-suicide-ordered-start-jail-n970111

Massachusetts high court upholds Michelle Carter's conviction for texts encouraging boyfriend's suicide
Carter's 15-month sentence for involuntary manslaughter had been on hold pending the ruling.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...carter-s-conviction-texts-encouraging-n968291
 
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