Trump: Only 'Bad Call from a Doctor' Would Prevent 2024 Run

Guard Dad

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This concerns me. It's not that I would mind him being president again, but I'm seriously worried that he's electable. His mouth is clearly no better than it was, and he will give the Democrats plenty of fodder to launch the hate machine again.

 

Far West

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Yep, it used to be people voted safety and their wallets.

The California recall showed me that is no longer true.

Even though Trump could turn around all the policies that are making the USA falter, no one will support him.

The amount of small businesses and mom and pop property owners who were hurt from lockdowns and eviction moratoriums in Kalifornia, did not show at the polls to recall Gavin Newsom.

I guess truly the government is paying people off to keep them in office, and it worked. Newsom handed out money , and the people took it (are still taking it,) and felt lucky to have him as their leader.

The people are so dumb they truly think Heir Leader protected them from dying of covid by his mandates and lockdowns... most of which had no science to them. Such as wearing a mask at the beach. Locking people in their homes where they could not exercise because they closed gyms, beaches, trails, parks, playgrounds, national parks, zoos, amusement parks- everything. So they got fat and it increased by 25% the amount of kids who have type 2 diabetes!

No one could leave their home unless they were masked up to go stand in long lines to get into crowded stores- stores that in the past were never that crowded because there were many other option to go shop,

I guess many have only seen what they know in their city... so un-inquisitive about how other cities, states or countries dealt with
Covid... they believed what the Kalifornia media told them about how they were so lucky to have politicians that cared deeply about their safety and health.

The same will happen if Trump runs again, there will be 24 media telling the people how Trump will kill them, would have killed them, they were so lucky to have Biden, they better vote him in again. Orange Man Bad... and the people will embrace it.

It just amazes me how dumb people truly are. :banghead:
 
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Far West

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If the election were held today, I think Trump would barely win. However, Nov 2024 is a long time from now.

I'd prefer he not run again. Instead, he should pick someone and fully back them.
I thought Trump would too, until Gavin Newsom not only escaped recall, he sailed through it.

You know how they did it? By saying Larry Elder was the same as Trump... wouldn't want Trump Bad wanna be to be elected.

Elder was the leading candidate that people were excited to vote for, and who garnered over 40% support even after being smeared with lies by the media and dems.

Now Newsom has a mandate and will sign crazy bills... remember they pass in Kalifornia, then migrate to the rest of the Nation.

 

Boss 302

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I thought Trump would too, until Gavin Newsom not only escaped recall, he sailed through it.

You know how they did it? By saying Larry Elder was the same as Trump... wouldn't want Trump Bad wanna be to be elected.

Elder was the leading candidate that people were excited to vote for, and who garnered over 40% support even after being smeared with lies by the media and dems.

Now Newsom has a mandate and will sign crazy bills... remember they pass in Kalifornia, then migrate to the rest of the Nation.

California is overwhelmingly Democratic voters. I looked at the recall election result map and all the areas that normally vote Republican voted in favor of the recall. Those Republican strongholds hold nowhere near the population the Democratic strongholds have.

Here are three maps. One for the recall, the 2020 election results, and the 2016 election results. Voter turnout was lower for the recall than it was for either of two previous presidential elections. Interesting that more Californians voted for Trump in 2020 than they did in 2016. In all three elections, the Dems beat the Republicans by almost a 2-1 margin.
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Guard Dad

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Yeah, but he's gotta get the independents. They're up for grabs, but can he win them over?

 

cptlo

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Sigh....here is a prime example of him saying stupid stuff. Was he joking....honestly, it is hard to tell.

 

Far West

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California is overwhelmingly Democratic voters. I looked at the recall election result map and all the areas that normally vote Republican voted in favor of the recall. Those Republican strongholds hold nowhere near the population the Democratic strongholds have.

Here are three maps. One for the recall, the 2020 election results, and the 2016 election results. Voter turnout was lower for the recall than it was for either of two previous presidential elections. Interesting that more Californians voted for Trump in 2020 than they did in 2016. In all three elections, the Dems beat the Republicans by almost a 2-1 margin.
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You are right, it is interesting to look at the counties that voted yes in the recall, but voted for Dems in the presidential elections.

I think Below is the 2020 election results for Biden /Trump though... however your numbers are correct above . Where you typed 2016, should have been 2020. The below map even makes the recall look more successful where Democrat counties voted for the recall.


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Guard Dad

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You are right, it is interesting to look at the counties that voted yes in the recall, but voted for Dems in the presidential elections.

I think Below is the 2020 election results for Biden /Trump though... however your numbers are correct above . Where you typed 2016, should have been 2020. The below map even makes the recall look more successful where Democrat counties voted for the recall.


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California was a GOP stronghold until 1992. The GOP needs to figure out how to get them back.

If the GOP could ever get California, it would be hard for the Dems to win the White House again.
 

Far West

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California was a GOP stronghold until 1992. The GOP needs to figure out how to get them back.

If the GOP could ever get California, it would be hard for the Dems to win the White House again.
Yep... San Diego was a Republican county when I grew up.

About the time we moved to Georgia in the late 90's San Diego was changing over to lean liberal . Parts of California like the Bay area, parts of Northern California, and Los Angeles were progressive and liberal since the 70's. My elementary school in northern California was progressive, the city we lived in was progressive and implemented zero growth policies. My father, an Ayn Rand follower, moved us back to San Diego where he and my mom grew up to get us away from that progressivism.

The influx of illegal aliens will prevent that from ever happening again.
It is not just the influx of illegal aliens, much of it is the school system. The schools have been taken over by marxists. In California it started in the 60's. But the rest of the nation has been infiltrated big time as well.

If you drill down deeper into the recall numbers and look at the "No" on the recall votes; the younger the voter, a larger percentage of support for the "No" vote. The older demographic had lower "No" votes.

The young people are the ones that believe in being punished for using straws, plastic bags, water, and "fossil fuels"... they believe the "experts" telling them that in 10 years the earth will end, or the tides will rise.

The are linked into the social media the preys on the fear of dying of Covid, that the government was the only thing keeping them safe. They are the generations who have been taught to fear any risk... and their media they participate in reinforces it. They believe only through government control will people behave and do what is safe. They don't have religion.

If we don't get back civics and facts of history in our schools and get rid of the socialism lessons, our country will all look like California.

If we can reach the kids and get them to think about how those "experts" and politicians, selling them these ideas, have continued to buy houses right on the beach (with tides rising?)... and many other hypocritical behaviors that do not match with the great crisis they claim are coming.

If the teens and young adults even stopped to consider, maybe they would realize politicians and the schools quoting the "experts" are not giving them truthful information.

Many Californians truly think of themselves as compassionate. They are willing to be taxed more for what they should be doing in churches- helping the needy, homeless, and widows. Odd they can't identify that putting corrupt government officials in charge of tax money will never get to the intended project the money was for, to help the needy... They are willing to be taxed to mitigate use of plastic , fossil fuels, climate change... the latest scare the politicians have cooked up. So the next election, the government hand comes out for more money and yet another ballot measure ... Californians will vote for the additional taxation- because they have been groomed to think that it is the "right" thing to do. It is crazy. Can't trust those Caladamnfornians.
 

Stonewall

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The failure of the GOP to produce a viable candidate is pathetic. Trump was never a GOP guy he was much more similar to an independent. The GOP never truly accepted him as one of their own. These old fossils like McConnell need to move center on some issues to gain independents. I think staying right on military, finance, entitlements, immigration, tax cuts, etc. are good policy for them and they should stand their ground. I think they should move toward center on the environment, women's right to choose, gay marriage etc. I do not agree with a lot of liberal social policy but it is back to legislating morality, it costs votes and really is a matter of opinion. If the GOP would run on economy, nationalism and family values (minus hard core fire and brimstone BS) I think they would be more electable on a national level. DJT is not the man for the job. He very well could be if he were more likable and shut that pie hole.
 

Far West

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The GOP are as bad as the Dems...

You are correct Trump was independent because he thought like a capitalist, a businessman, and not a politician.

The swamp politicians both GOP and Dems hated him for that and sabotaged him every way they could. They knew Trump was showing how ineffective they have been for decades, by the fresh unique way he lead our country...

Term limits are needed because our system is set up by those in power to stay in power.

We need more leaders who put America first, protect our borders, promote capitalism.
 

Far West

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Sorry but my opinion of CA is that it’s just a pretty crap hole.
I agree... but the GOP has allowed the same mess that we have in California to spread to all states.

Marxism has been taught in the schools, so new voters vote for Dems... they are also shipping illegals all over the country.

I have told all of you we have at least 8 large hotels in San Diego (probably many more, but those I can confirm) being used to house and process illegals to send out into the USA. They are bused or flown here from Texas... our effing Governor and Mayor are working with the current administration to accomplish this (remember Nasty Pelosi rules CA with her Nephew Gavin). There are thousands of immigration lawyers who are paid by all sorts of organizations to help these people, pro bono, to gain a foothold in our country. They are processing Haitians as we speak.

They don't stay in California... they are placed in other cities around the country... they work with the churches and 7 of the largest immigration organizations in the country to accomplish this.
 
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