Covid is right here, and it's getting bad fast.

[Guard Dad]

He says 40% of those who recently died in Maryland were vaccinated. I searched but couldn't find any more context. Was that 4 out of 10? 40 out of 100? What were their ages and other health issues? There are too many questions to take anything of value from his claim.

Not sure, but I don't think he's being anti-vax. From reading the article, I took it that his reasoning for reporting those statistics was to promote keeping immunity levels strong. I assume that means he's pro booster. If I'm right about the context, that makes the article even more alarming.

I believe the Maryland governor announced similar stats recently.

While age and health issues are relevant to a degree, that only goes so far. While I do believe the vaccines have helped, they have not been as good or as durable as we were led to believe. No, we weren't promised that they would last forever, nor were we told they would be effective against variants. But we dang sure weren't told otherwise either. All I recall hearing was that they were 9*% effective and nothing else. Now we're seeing statistics that indicate their effectiveness might not be that high, that they are quickly weakening, and they didn't do nearly as well against the Delta.

All while more and more data is saying natural immunity is "robust and durable" (terms I keep hearing virologists use), and real stats showed that is is far more effective against the Delta than the vaccine.

Yet our government still maintains that the vaccine is the divine answer to EVERY problem, and still no recognition of natural immunity.

And we wonder why people have trust issues with the government and concerning the vaccine.

 

[cptlo]

Agreed. I think he is promoting boosters...either way, the 40% number doesn't mean much without more context.

I think most people* agree that natural immunity is better, but think about how bad Delta was for the unvaccinated and then think about how bad it would have been without the vaccines. If the vaccines do nothing else other than postpone everyone getting infected then that in itself is a positive since we'll have more and better ways to fight COVID as time goes on.

* = most people not in government

 

[Guard Dad]

While I'm venting...

Since going through what I did with the WuFlu, a lot of people I actually know as well as many Facebook friends I've never met in person have reached out to me because either they had COVID or a loved one did, some of them hospitalized. Most were just looking for advice or just support while they were battling it. Though it brings back painful memories, I feel I have a responsibility to help them if I can.

One thing I have learned is that most doctors still have no idea how to treat this thing! Very few of them seem to have done their own research, instead just parroting the CDC line and whatever politics is driving at the time.

Example...most of my Welstar doctors have strongly urged me to get the vaccine, sticking to the CDC BS that natural antibodies only last 3 months. That's been proven wrong time and again, but when I mention that to my doctors they don't know anything about it. Some admitted that they just go by what the CDC tells them.

Another example is treatments. My first doctor while in the ICU didn't know what to do, his treatment failed and that's when I got worse and nearly died. Thankfully, the second doc was more up on it. My friend Amy was in a hospital in Bremen, and they admitted to her that they still didn't know much about how to treat COVID. They took her off the steroids after just a week of them, and like me, she got much worse and they had to put her on massive O2 just to keep her alive. I asked her why they took her off and she said her doc didn't want to keep her on them because of the side effects. To which I answered..."If they don't get that crap out of your lungs, side effects won't matter because you'll be dead!". So she demanded that her doc meet with her in person and asked him to put her back on the steroids. And guess what...she got better and came home.

EVERY person who contacted me that was in the hospital said they started early on wanting to put them on a ventilator. They did with me too, and I refused. Amy and some others refused too, and they all came home. A friend of mine's son who was put on a ventilator died. To be fair, he might have already been too far gone to not put on a vent. But point being...they are defaulting to the ventilator instead of trying to fight the pneumonia. My pulmonologist told me flat out after I told him I refused the vent that I made a good decision and probably would not have come home had I went on one.

I realize this thing kinda blindsided us, but after a year and a half, why are doctors not better educated about treating this? It's unacceptable!

Lastly...the politics involved in COVID is causing people to die. The chain pharmacies and hospitals are ONLY using the politically approved meds and procedures. They won't allow HCQ, Ivermectin, or any of the other treatments that seem to have some merit. ALl they will give for COVID is Remdeziver (I had it too) which is terribly expensive, and a lot of friends of mine in the medical industry tell me it doesn't do crap. And I didn't know at the time, but it's not FDA approved either, just covered under the EUA. I was mostly over the COVID by the time I went to the hospital, I just couldn't breath. Yet I was given $16,000 of Remdeziver. We're treating people with politics, not medicine. And people have died because of it! And we don't dare speak of such on big social media or we're either censored or "fact checked". I don't even know my country anymore!

OK, rant over. For now...

 

[Far West]

He says 40% of those who recently died in Maryland were vaccinated. I searched but couldn't find any more context. Was that 4 out of 10? 40 out of 100? What were their ages and other health issues? There are too many questions to take anything of value from his claim.

Especially if you consider that only 60.57% of the MD population is “fully vaccinated.” That’s not far from statistically insignificant.

Coronavirus - Maryland Department of Health

Visit the Maryland Department of Health's official resource for the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) outbreak.

coronavirus.maryland.gov

Maryland COVID: 551,807 Cases and 10,735 Deaths - Worldometer

Maryland COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[Guard Dad]

White House Details Plans to Vaccinate 28M Children Age 5-11​

White House Details Plans to Vaccinate 28M Children Age 5-11

Children aged 5 to 11 will soon be able to get a COVID-19 shot at their pediatrician's office, local pharmacy and potentially even their school, the White House said Wednesday as it detailed plans for the expected authorization of the Pfizer shot for younger children in a...

www.newsmax.com

 

[Far West]

White House Details Plans to Vaccinate 28M Children Age 5-11​

White House Details Plans to Vaccinate 28M Children Age 5-11

Children aged 5 to 11 will soon be able to get a COVID-19 shot at their pediatrician's office, local pharmacy and potentially even their school, the White House said Wednesday as it detailed plans for the expected authorization of the Pfizer shot for younger children in a...

www.newsmax.com

This is just cringe worthy and makes me angry at the same time. I think there has been pressure for the FDA to approve it, even though they truly don't know the risks in children.

Kids have almost zero risk with getting covid.

We have no long term studies with this vaccine, and many boys have already had horrible outcomes with this shot. Many are currently among those with vaccine injury for the rest of their life for a virus that had zero risk to them! They should live another 80 years, and yet they have a damaged heart!. It is criminal to give these vaccines to young people!

Very different to have a vaccine injury in a 60 or 80 year old... this so so wrong!

Kids risk of vaccine injury far outweighs any benefit to society or themselves to take a shot that we have no long term studies in children.

 

[cptlo]

Yeah, 5-11 is too young considering their low risk.

 

[Guard Dad]

I am strongly opposed to children getting the vaccine at this time. As already stated, the risk of COVID for children is still very low, and vaccinating them for it just isn't warranted, IMO.

If Biden thinks he's getting pushback now, wait until parents rise up to defend their children.

As an aside...this is the exact fanatical type of push for the vaccine that makes people suspicious.

 

[The Sound Guy]

I think they are looking at the kids being vectors for transmission, more than being in danger themselves. However, I agree that it seems to be more risk from the vax than that they would mass transmit the virus to people who if in danger, should already be vaxed.

I know $$$ has a lot to do with this, but also have to wonder if the Libs are just too stupid to understand the science and really think that they can get rid of covid with the vax. I mean they screw up environmental science all the time, not to mention economics, I can see them really thinking that they can kill it back.

 

[Far West]

I think they are looking at the kids being vectors for transmission, more than being in danger themselves. However, I agree that it seems to be more risk from the vax than that they would mass transmit the virus to people who if in danger, should already be vaxed.

I know $$$ has a lot to do with this, but also have to wonder if the Libs are just too stupid to understand the science and really think that they can get rid of covid with the vax. I mean they screw up environmental science all the time, not to mention economics, I can see them really thinking that they can kill it back.

I know here in Caladamnfornia the media has made it sound like we are all going to die of this.

The kids are scared they will die.

Many parents have told me their kids are asking them if they can get the shot. When fearful enough people will do things not in their best interest.

Not to mention the actual facts are being hidden from the public about how little to no risk children have if they get sick. Most have sniffles and are not too hungry. Many of my employee's kids have had it (the first Covid and Delta Variant.) None have more than cold symptoms and food tasted odd. The biggest challenge was getting the kids to eat the first 3 days, then they were fine.

 

[Guard Dad]

I know here in Caladamnfornia the media has made it sound like we are all going to die of this.

The kids are scared they will die.

Many parents have told me their kids are asking them if they can get the shot. When fearful enough people will do things not in their best interest.

Not to mention the actual facts are being hidden from the public about how little to no risk children have if they get sick. Most have sniffles and are not too hungry. Many of my employee's kids have had it (the first Covid and Delta Variant.) None have more than cold symptoms and food tasted odd. The biggest challenge was getting the kids to eat the first 3 days, then they were fine.

My middle granddaughter had it just after her dad got it. She just had mild flu-type symptoms.

It's horrible that they are scaring children like that.

 

[Guard Dad]

I know $$$ has a lot to do with this, but also have to wonder if the Libs are just too stupid to understand the science and really think that they can get rid of covid with the vax. I mean they screw up environmental science all the time, not to mention economics, I can see them really thinking that they can kill it back.

Just my perspective, but I can't help but think there is more behind the almost fanatical push for the vaccine other than to prevent COVID.

All kinds of conspiracy theories out there that I try not to buy into, but this makes my Spidey senses go nuts!

 

[Far West]

My middle granddaughter had it just after her dad got it. She just had mild flu-type symptoms.

It's horrible that they are scaring children like that.

The dumb thing is EVERYONE knows many children who have had it. Not one person has a horror story of a child that ended up dead. No one I know, or have spoken with, ended up with a child in the hospital - no one.

I talk to a lot of people everyday... brand new people. Most of our guests are families of 4 to 6 (a lot of time they sneak in 5 or 6 kids.) Our hotel has very few business travelers because our prices are too high for the business traveler. We are by the Beach, SeaWorld and the other sites mostly families like to go to.

I wish the people making these decisions knew and interacted with real American Families... you don't get any more real than families that stay at a Holiday Inn Express... if you know what I mean. No rarefied air or Martha's Vineyard crowd, nor Georgetown elite... just middle class Americans making ends meet and raising their family staying at a Holiday Inn Express.

 

[Far West]

Just my perspective, but I can't help but think there is more behind the almost fanatical push for the vaccine other than to prevent COVID.

All kinds of conspiracy theories out there that I try not to buy into, but this makes my Spidey senses go nuts!

Radio Head posted - below... many think their goal at vaxing everyone is that way there is no control group. Once the shit hits the fan and the long term effects start showing up from these jabs in the population there is no way to prove it is from the non vaccine, vaccine.

Countdown to ZERO IMMUNITY... vaccine victims are seeing their immune response drop by about 5% each week, with long-term consequences mirroring AIDS

A bombshell report published by The Expose (UK) is entitled, "A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome." Since this is being instigated by vaccine injections, I'm calling it "Injected Immunodeficien

www.naturalnews.com

If everyone who had a jab is sick, but a 20% that had no jab aren't, it will be obvious. They did away with control groups in the trial studies too, vaccinating them to protect them. Now they are hell bent on jabing everyone... why is that?

Perhaps they are seeing how far they can push our complacency and compliance?

However I like the saying, "Choosing to take a vaccine I put in my body should be between me and my healthcare provider, not between me and the HR administrator at my job."

 

[Far West]

Or maybe payola

 

[Far West]

https://twitter.com/KevinKileyCA

In-N-Out's response to being shut down by San Francisco: “We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government. We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business.”

In-N-Out Burger shut down for refusing to enforce COVID vaccine mandate. “We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government. It is unreasonable, invasive, and unsafe to …segregate Customers…based on the documentation they carry.”



sf.eater.com
SF’s Only In-N-Out Refuses to Enforce the City’s Vaccination Mandate for Indoor Dining
The health department temporarily shut down the Fisherman’s Wharf location, while In-N-Out corporate

 

[Far West]

While I'm venting...

Since going through what I did with the WuFlu, a lot of people I actually know as well as many Facebook friends I've never met in person have reached out to me because either they had COVID or a loved one did, some of them hospitalized. Most were just looking for advice or just support while they were battling it. Though it brings back painful memories, I feel I have a responsibility to help them if I can.

One thing I have learned is that most doctors still have no idea how to treat this thing! Very few of them seem to have done their own research, instead just parroting the CDC line and whatever politics is driving at the time.

Example...most of my Welstar doctors have strongly urged me to get the vaccine, sticking to the CDC BS that natural antibodies only last 3 months. That's been proven wrong time and again, but when I mention that to my doctors they don't know anything about it. Some admitted that they just go by what the CDC tells them.

Another example is treatments. My first doctor while in the ICU didn't know what to do, his treatment failed and that's when I got worse and nearly died. Thankfully, the second doc was more up on it. My friend Amy was in a hospital in Bremen, and they admitted to her that they still didn't know much about how to treat COVID. They took her off the steroids after just a week of them, and like me, she got much worse and they had to put her on massive O2 just to keep her alive. I asked her why they took her off and she said her doc didn't want to keep her on them because of the side effects. To which I answered..."If they don't get that crap out of your lungs, side effects won't matter because you'll be dead!". So she demanded that her doc meet with her in person and asked him to put her back on the steroids. And guess what...she got better and came home.

EVERY person who contacted me that was in the hospital said they started early on wanting to put them on a ventilator. They did with me too, and I refused. Amy and some others refused too, and they all came home. A friend of mine's son who was put on a ventilator died. To be fair, he might have already been too far gone to not put on a vent. But point being...they are defaulting to the ventilator instead of trying to fight the pneumonia. My pulmonologist told me flat out after I told him I refused the vent that I made a good decision and probably would not have come home had I went on one.

I realize this thing kinda blindsided us, but after a year and a half, why are doctors not better educated about treating this? It's unacceptable!

Lastly...the politics involved in COVID is causing people to die. The chain pharmacies and hospitals are ONLY using the politically approved meds and procedures. They won't allow HCQ, Ivermectin, or any of the other treatments that seem to have some merit. ALl they will give for COVID is Remdeziver (I had it too) which is terribly expensive, and a lot of friends of mine in the medical industry tell me it doesn't do crap. And I didn't know at the time, but it's not FDA approved either, just covered under the EUA. I was mostly over the COVID by the time I went to the hospital, I just couldn't breath. Yet I was given $16,000 of Remdeziver. We're treating people with politics, not medicine. And people have died because of it! And we don't dare speak of such on big social media or we're either censored or "fact checked". I don't even know my country anymore!

OK, rant over. For now...

My wife is a veterinarian and I'm a family doctor. Sometimes there's medication BOTH of us prescribe our patients for different reasons. The way
@joerogan
& others have been treated by bad actors in the media lessens our ability to be creative problem solvers in medicine.

 

[cptlo]

I think we may be giving the powers that be too much credit with some of the conspiracy ideas. I think they just believe more vaccinations will make COVID less of a political issue which will help them retain or gain power.

 

[The Sound Guy]

I think we may be giving the powers that be too much credit with some of the conspiracy ideas. I think they just believe more vaccinations will make COVID less of a political issue which will help them retain or gain power.

The libs would love to say they beat covid when Trump and the GOP could not... ignoring that the vax was created under Trump.

 

[Far West]

I think we may be giving the powers that be too much credit with some of the conspiracy ideas. I think they just believe more vaccinations will make COVID less of a political issue which will help them retain or gain power.

In 5 or 10 years we may know... or maybe the next election cycle.