Electric vehicles....

Boss 302 said:
Which also shows the market share for EVs isn't as large as a lot of people think.
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I thought I heard 4% of people own an EV in the USA... Chat GPT said, "For example, in the United States, EVs made up only about 2% of all new car sales in 2019."

I think if you are making $300,000 a year in California, and have a house, perhaps you can swing an EV.

As a person living in an apartment, there would not be a place to charge overnight...

Outside of the fact that I think charging for hours would be a nightmare, vs driving up to the Costco gas pump and 4 minutes later driving out ready to go another 400 miles.

I don't value a car enough to spend over $25,000 on a car... that is about the top amount I want to have invested in a car. And to be honest if I could stay at $10,000 that would be better.

All my cars I have had, I drive for 15 to 20 years... so once paid off, I have no car payment. I don't see that happening with these expensive EV... the battery alone to replace when it dies prevents me from wanting and EV.
 
Guard Dad said:
www.businessinsider.com

A man took his Tesla on a road trip for the first time and tells EV owners to beware of the 'charging curve'

Ryan Shelton drove from North Long Beach to Burney Falls in California in April but underestimated how much the hilly terrain would drain his battery.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Yep... I love that I can drive up to a gas station and in 4 minutes I drive out with 400 miles until I need to do that again. I have no desire to ever own an electric vehicle.

I hope this whole fad dies a horrible death when something much better is invented.
 
Far West said:
Yep... I love that I can drive up to a gas station and in 4 minutes I drive out with 400 miles until I need to do that again. I have no desire to ever own an electric vehicle.

I hope this whole fad dies a horrible death when something much better is invented.
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Evs are here to stay to a certain degree, but rushing it through like that have has started them out in the wrong direction, so I think the whole EV industry will have to back up and regroup in the very near future. We still have some hurdles to get over and a couple of technological breakthroughs will be needed before we can likely do that. We still don't have the batteries we need, or the charging systems. I still believe we're going to see a partial shift back to hybrids of some type and possibly the integration of PV cells on the cars themselves so they can do some recharging on the fly. I also think the future will see EVs that are much less powerful than the current crop. The big selling point of the fad thus far has been the crazy acceleration of EVs, but that really isn't very practical. We need range and faster recharges.

I predict the next couple of years will be very volatile for the auto industry. Lots of changing, and some of the start-ups are not going to make it.
 
Guard Dad said:

Pros and Cons of Hybrid Cars​


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Pros and Cons of Hybrid Cars

Hybrid vehicles are a great choice for the environmentally conscious, but that doesn’t mean they’re the best choice for everyone. Learn more.
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Most of the cons are the same for fully electric cars, with much shorter range and longer refuel time. Give me a hybrid.

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Pros of owning a hybrid​

  • Good fuel economy — the higher the price of gas, the quicker a hybrid pays for itself
  • Some hybrids get up to 600 miles of range on a tank of gas
  • Resale value holds pretty well, especially Toyota vehicles
  • No loss of power/acceleration versus a gas-powered car
  • Fewer emissions than a gas-powered car

Cons of owning a hybrid​

  • Upfront cost of the hybrid is more expensive than a gasoline-powered car
  • More maintenance — hybrids have two systems, a gas engine and a lithium battery system
  • Higher maintenance costs
  • If out of warranty, replacing the lithium battery will cost between $2,000-$4,000
  • There is some degradation in the lithium battery in cold weather
 
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