Mass Resignation from the Mormon Church

Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.

Pedophilia is not a parallel. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship.
 
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447987952 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.

Pedophilia is not a parallel. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship.
That's just the legal aspect. And it was and still is legal in some cultures.

I'm referring to the sin aspect.
 
Guard Dad date=1447988781 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447987952 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.

Pedophilia is not a parallel. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship.
That's just the legal aspect. And it was and still is legal in some cultures.

I'm referring to the sin aspect.

It's Biology. I would concede that there is a gray area on age of consent, but the age group classified under pedophilia is not in that gray area.
 
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447990812 said:
Guard Dad date=1447988781 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447987952 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.

Pedophilia is not a parallel. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship.
That's just the legal aspect. And it was and still is legal in some cultures.

I'm referring to the sin aspect.

It's Biology. I would concede that there is a gray area on age of consent, but the age group classified under pedophilia is not in that gray area.
Still...I was only comparing it from a sin point of view. If, in fact, homosexuality is sinful before God; the love factor is irrelevant. It's the act that is sinful.
 
J-man date=1447987871 said:
Even at 3,500 that's only a drop in the bucket to their estimated 15M membership. I'm not a Mormon (or a moron) so I can't legitimately speak on their faith, but obviously they don't condone homosexuality, not unlike many religious faiths.
It was not just that, it was the disowning family! That is ridiculous. Very loving. /s
 
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
 
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.
 
Guard Dad date=1447991600 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.
Fine. I will start the comparisons each and every time someone speaks of a sin with one of the sick ones. We will see how long it lasts before people complain that I am comparing their sin to something as dang sick as having sex with a child or animal. I bet not long. Think about that.
Sin might be sin, but the comparison you have made is sick. SICK.
 
ShoeDiva date=1447991774 said:
Guard Dad date=1447991600 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.
Fine. I will start the comparisons each and every time someone speaks of a sin with one of the sick ones. We will see how long it lasts before people complain that I am comparing their sin to something as dang sick as having sex with a child or animal. I bet not long. Think about that.
Sin might be sin, but the comparison you have made is sick. SICK.
A lot of people think homosexuality is sick too.

I guess we can all pick what disgusts us.
 
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
 
Guard Dad date=1447991969 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991774 said:
Guard Dad date=1447991600 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.
Fine. I will start the comparisons each and every time someone speaks of a sin with one of the sick ones. We will see how long it lasts before people complain that I am comparing their sin to something as dang sick as having sex with a child or animal. I bet not long. Think about that.
Sin might be sin, but the comparison you have made is sick. SICK.
A lot of people think homosexuality is sick too.

I guess we can all pick what disgusts us.
Really?
I would bet money that not one person here would agree that a person having sex with a child or animal is okay. You can not say the same for homosexuality. That is two consenting adults that love one another. Whether you believe it to be a sin or not it is not the same or parallel at all.
If that were the case.............the parallel can be made that those that had sex before marriage are the same as a pedophile.

I could go on, but I do not believe that , but since sin is sin. It does not matter that they love one another. /s The comparison sounds totally ridiculous to me, does it not to you?
Why do you not compare homosexuality to premarital sex? That is a much closer parallel.
 
stradial date=1447992821 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
I say that myself, and then I try... :BH
 
stradial date=1447992821 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
Of course there is.

But they are both defined as sexual immorality in the Bible.
 
Guard Dad date=1447991600 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.

Sin is sin.
If you think it, then that is the same sin as doing it.
So screw it, might as well do it.

Sin is sin.
So my telling a lie, stealing a pen from work, having sex with a married women (back in my bad days) are the same as kidnapping, torturing, raping and killing a 5 yr old kid?

Hell is gonna be mighty full and heaven is gonna be mighty empty.
 
stradial date=1447993173 said:
Guard Dad date=1447991600 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447991397 said:
When homosexuality is compared to pedophilia or bestiality the person making the statement loses all credibility. You can be against homosexuality, that is fine, but support it with actual facts, not sick, disgusting crap.

If you say the parallel is because it is a sin I can compare ANY SIN to pedophilia or bestiality and I really do not think people want that.
Sin is sin.

Sin is sin.
If you think it, then that is the same sin as doing it.
So screw it, might as well do it.

Sin is sin.
So my telling a lie, stealing a pen from work, having sex with a married women (back in my bad days) are the same as kidnapping, torturing, raping and killing a 5 yr old kid?

Hell is gonna be mighty full and heaven is gonna be mighty empty.
It sure would be, if not for Grace.
 
Guard Dad date=1447993012 said:
stradial date=1447992821 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
Of course there is.

But they are both defined as sexual immorality in the Bible.
So is premarital sex.
 
ShoeDiva date=1447993407 said:
Guard Dad date=1447993012 said:
stradial date=1447992821 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
Of course there is.

But they are both defined as sexual immorality in the Bible.
So is premarital sex.
Correct. I'm glad we agree.
 
Guard Dad date=1447993466 said:
ShoeDiva date=1447993407 said:
Guard Dad date=1447993012 said:
stradial date=1447992821 said:
Guard Dad date=1447987448 said:
Waski_the_Squirrel date=1447986390 said:
Quick Update:

Apparently this went well. There were at least 1500 resignations. It is not known how many became atheists and how many moved to other faiths.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation

Homosexuality isn't just about sex. It's also about love.

I don't think anyone doubts that homosexuals can love each other. But that doesn't make it OK.

I would guess that there are pedophiles who love their child partners, and the children love them back. It's still wrong.

I could come up with other parallels, but I think that one makes my point.

I do not agree with the Mormon church's condemnation of children from same-sex couples. In fact I think that to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus. But I do support them on their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
I for one think there is a HUGE HUGE difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
The most basic reason...never mind, if I have to explain the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, it isn't worth my time.
Of course there is.

But they are both defined as sexual immorality in the Bible.
So is premarital sex.
Correct. I'm glad we agree.
I notice you did not respond to the fact you go for the shock and disgust value of comparing homosexuals to pedophiles when the parallel with having premarital sex would actually make your point. (IF you believe that the bible does in fact state that after so many rewritings and a word that was not around....but I digress) Instead of totally making your point sound like it has no credibility and you are just against homosexuals a better parallel should be used.
 
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